Hopkins: "I'll Hand Calzaghe His First Loss"

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  • Addison
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    #61
    Originally posted by kayjay
    Winky? I like Winky, loved him against Mosley especially, but Winky wouldn't stand a chance against Calz. Winky was an OUTSTANDING 154 lber, a good middleweight who was still overpowered in drawing Taylor. He doesn't go above that.
    I don't know how I would consider that matchup.. I would have to consider it. But I do know it wouldn't be a foregone conclusion in my mind. There's a very good chance Calzaghe would beat Wright in similiar fashion to the way Hopkins did it. Definately. Size would be a problem too, I agree.

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    • GTL
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      #62
      be prepared to see hopkins throw that right hand while looking at the floor to counter JC's hooks.. boring fight, i would just want to see the outcome..
      id like JC to fight taylor, bute, dawson and hopkins.. it sucks that hes uppin the compitition after all these years.. at least hes doing it

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      • RisAri0
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        #63
        Originally posted by kayjay
        Why does Hopkins get a pass for losing to Jermain Taylor twice?
        well I'm thinking its because he defeated Winky Wright by a couple rounds, something Jermaine didn't do which of course was a draw....and I believe if Taylor ever fought B-hop again, hopkins would know taylor too well to beat him...

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #64
          Winky loses although he would look better against Joe then Hopkinsand here is why:

          While winky is an outstanding fighter his main specialty is his biggest weakness, fighting swarming lefties who punch from all angles, all ranges and with all possible(awkward and not punches) is very hard for a not veyr mobile stand up counter puncher . He is gonna have his moments obviously, but his lack of power won't be able to keep Calzaghe off of Winkster. And Winky will be able to have an upper hand in exchanges as well as being able to control the distance with his superior footwork. As I said, Winky is gonna have his moments and plenty of them with good counters but the majority of the punches(in the fight) will be landed on HIM.

          Now, as to Hopkins, the problem with Hopkins(just like with many other boxing geniouses) is that he does not like to fight at his opponents pace. He is very good at giving angles, landing a punch or two and then withdrawing. That is NOT the way to fight Calzaghe. Hopkins's best chances of beating Joe is fighting dirty and out of clinch(a la Robert Reid) but I just don't see him do enough to grant him a win.

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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I don't agree with that last statement. If he did, he wouldn't have lost to Jermain Taylor - ever. Although, I don't think he did. And yes, I've been watching him for a while - I do not see him being able to outthink Joe like has so many others simply because he won't be given the amount of time to operate that others did - like Tarver.
            Tayor is not Calzaghe. Whole different ball of wax.

            Something about the exploding standoffs, arcing haymakers, start and stop action, and various other factors make the Jones and Taylor fights comparable in what it took to nullify Hopkins. Raw athleticism.

            He stopped punching against that. ^

            Does he stop punching against a Calzaghe?.. I wouldn't think so.

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            • Tobi.G
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              #66
              [QUOTE=steptwome;2806611]
              Originally posted by R.Winky Wright
              ZAG by KO.[/QUOTE]

              ...........................Wishful Thinking?
              Any one with an ounce of boxing knowledge would dispute that
              BAAAAHH!!! Wahts up with that ugly fatass ***** in your avatar!? Her ass is twice as big as Peters!!!
              Last edited by Tobi.G; 11-05-2007, 12:18 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                WBC/WBA/WBO super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe (44-0, 32 KOs) is beating the drums for a fight with recognized light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins (48-4-1, 32 KOs). Calzaghe and his promoter Frank Warren, said they are willing to make the fight in America or even Hopkins' backyard of Philadelphia - if the money is right. [details]
                I don't know about that one B-Hop.. Bernard barely got past Winky and if he didn't pull out that dirty bull**** he would have lost, as is some people feel Winky won and he trying to say he can beat Joe? I got respect for B-Hop's chin, no doubt in my mind he CAN go the distance, we might however see him hurt for the 1st time in a long time, bottom line is Joe is the better fighter between the two in terms of skills and there isn't really much B-Hop can do accept cut him and hope he phases him, when it comes to the hands Bernard is no longer fast enough, he can splurge out and hard ass combination then weave and clinch but he can't pull off another Echols, those days are behind him and in order to beat Joe he will need that and more.. Joe fights from angles, he's the type to block while he weaves. it comes down to Boxing skills here and if you compare the 2 the only things Bernard actually has is his head and clinching to get close enough to use his head.. the cut, plus the weight and the rough housing proved too much for Wink but it wont for Joe, B-Hop is going to be in for a long night.. 100

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                  #68
                  hopkins will come with a dirty fight plan and he'll implement it as best he can. i think theres a lot of room for x-factors in this fight regarding cuts and fouls. bhop could win but i don't see any way for him to win without it being ugly. and joe could win the same way roy jones won over a decade ago. just blitzing bernard with combos but not actually hurting him or putting him in any trouble.

                  either joe by a wide decision or bernard by a razor sharp one after an ugly fight

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #69
                    Calzaghe would be seen as a fraud if he lost to Hopkins and Hopkins would be seen as a demi god for beating Calzaghe at this stage of his career along with Dela Hoya ,Tito ect

                    yet if Joe Wins bhop is old ready for retirement etc he would have beaten Joe in his prime any excuse u can think of would come out

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                    • Jim Jeffries
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Orange Sneakers
                      A 36-year-old against a 43-year old
                      Already making excuses for a Hopkins loss, eh?

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