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  • kadyo's
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    #21
    Originally posted by moy22487
    naw i cant let him go as a champion, he is to much fun to watch (except for MAB rematch)
    im just saying if jmm is over rated because of that Questionable L to john then other fighters shouldnt be up there
    LOL I was just messin around and you clearly got my point haha!

    JMM is the best technical fighter of his division and arguably in boxing today. That turd you are arguing with is bias so it's useless making a point with him.

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    • eazy_mas
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      #22
      Originally posted by ferocity
      Mayweather had trouble with some fighters more so then others. He didn't beat Castillo and he had his hands full with Delahoya -could of gone either way, says alot for an old Delahoya.

      Hopkins lost to Taylor, strugled with Winky and Mercado.

      Pacquiao has gotten ko'd and lost to Marquez.

      These may be old fights but they were Judeing Marquez on old fights.
      JMM got the tools but I think he is abit overrated.

      He is a good fighter but sometimes he doesnt use his head like in the Chris John fight he his mind was into the fight. He didt pressure Chris John into a brawl from the HL I seen and he was putting straight right to the body when Chris John was far away.

      As for his fight with Barrera it more Barrera lost than Marquez won.

      here is my top 10 list:
      1- Floyd Maywather
      2- Manny Pac
      3- Calzaghe
      4- Hopkins
      5- Israel Vazquez
      6- Miguel Cotto
      7- Wlad Klitcho
      8- Jaun Diaz
      9-JMM
      10- Ivan Calderon

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      • moy22487
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        #23
        Originally posted by eazy_mas
        JMM got the tools but I think he is abit overrated.

        He is a good fighter but sometimes he doesnt use his head like in the Chris John fight he his mind was into the fight. He didt pressure Chris John into a brawl from the HL I seen and he was putting straight right to the body when Chris John was far away.

        As for his fight with Barrera it more Barrera lost than Marquez won.

        here is my top 10 list:
        1- Floyd Maywather
        2- Manny Pac
        3- Calzaghe
        4- Hopkins
        5- Israel Vazquez
        6- Miguel Cotto
        7- Wlad Klitcho
        8- Jaun Diaz
        9-JMM
        10- Ivan Calderon
        i like your list but in my list put hatton at 5 and take out israel.. he did have a great win but its comeing after a bad L i have isreal and rafael tied in 11th

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          #24
          Originally posted by eazy_mas
          JMM got the tools but I think he is abit overrated.

          He is a good fighter but sometimes he doesnt use his head like in the Chris John fight he his mind was into the fight. He didt pressure Chris John into a brawl from the HL I seen and he was putting straight right to the body when Chris John was far away.

          As for his fight with Barrera it more Barrera lost than Marquez won.

          here is my top 10 list:
          1- Floyd Maywather
          2- Manny Pac
          3- Calzaghe
          4- Hopkins
          5- Israel Vazquez
          6- Miguel Cotto
          7- Wlad Klitcho
          8- Jaun Diaz
          9-JMM
          10- Ivan Calderon
          Good List EM, except that misspelled juan diaz's name lol. I think diaz becomes the #1 p4p in a year or two.

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          • joepal
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            #25
            Originally posted by kadyo
            LOL I was just messin around and you clearly got my point haha!

            JMM is the best technical fighter of his division and arguably in boxing today. That turd you are arguing with is bias so it's useless making a point with him.
            JMM just had a close fight with MAB (who isn't in the top ten p4p), lost to John, and only drew with Pacquiao (when he should have lost). Jimrex Jaca who is nowhere Top 100 gave him hell. The Ring obviously erred in placing him top three with this showing.

            Who do you think won the Pacquiao-JMM fight? If you answer Pacquiao, you should say that JMM is overrated because JMM got the p4p ranking after that fight. If you say JMM then you are nothing but a Kapitan Tiago.

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            • eazy_mas
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              #26
              Originally posted by moy22487
              i like your list but in my list put hatton at 5 and take out israel.. he did have a great win but its comeing after a bad L i have isreal and rafael tied in 11th
              maybe Israel could replace JMM in the list.

              but right now Israel is the man to beat at that weighclass same as Hatton is the man to beat at 140.

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                #27
                Originally posted by moy22487
                i like your list but in my list put hatton at 5 and take out israel.. he did have a great win but its comeing after a bad L i have isreal and rafael tied in 11th
                I think vasquez deserves to be in the top 5, he just won in a fight that will probably 2007's fight of the year.

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                • moy22487
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by joepal
                  JMM just had a close fight with MAB (who isn't in the top ten p4p), lost to John, and only drew with Pacquiao (when he should have lost). Jimrex Jaca who is nowhere Top 100 gave him hell. The Ring obviously erred in placing him top three with this showing.

                  Who do you think won the Pacquiao-JMM fight? If you answer Pacquiao, you should say that JMM is overrated because JMM got the p4p ranking after that fight. If you say JMM then you are nothing but a Kapitan Tiago.
                  when jmm beat MAB barrera was top 5 p4p

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                  • ferocity
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by eazy_mas
                    JMM got the tools but I think he is abit overrated.

                    He is a good fighter but sometimes he doesnt use his head like in the Chris John fight he his mind was into the fight. He didt pressure Chris John into a brawl from the HL I seen and he was putting straight right to the body when Chris John was far away.

                    As for his fight with Barrera it more Barrera lost than Marquez won.

                    here is my top 10 list:
                    1- Floyd Maywather
                    2- Manny Pac
                    3- Calzaghe
                    4- Hopkins
                    5- Israel Vazquez
                    6- Miguel Cotto
                    7- Wlad Klitcho
                    8- Jaun Diaz
                    9-JMM
                    10- Ivan Calderon

                    A highlight reel can make any fighter look like the winner. You havn't seen the Marquez v. John fight? I'll hook you up if you don't have a copy i think i still have the fight on my computer.

                    Marquez is older now, his reflexes arn't what they used to be. He fought John in his hometown. To bad John wouldn't come over here an fight Marquez. John imo, fights very similar to Manuel "mantecas" Medina.

                    I had Marquez winning the fight and the ref was a lousy ref. John had his trunks up to his shoulders and the ref called the punchs low. Bad ref, and hometown crowd, mixed in with a runner like John, everytime John landed even if he didn't land, the crowd would scream and roar. At the end of the day Marquez got robbed.

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                    • eazy_mas
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kadyo
                      Good List EM, except that misspelled juan diaz's name lol. I think diaz becomes the #1 p4p in a year or two.
                      That is if he fight PAc in the coming year he could be aleast the top 5 in everyone list.

                      He got Casamayor, Santa Cruz, David Daiz and Manny Pac maybe JMM is coming up on weight

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