How does Cotto expect to beat Mosley with his terrible defense ?

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  • -Antonio-
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    #41
    Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
    You wanna bet points on the fight ?
    Nah, I don't bet on any of my favorite teams, fighters, etc. That's rule number one in betting. I realize it's just points, just saying...

    You may say I'm just not confident. I'm not overly confident (it is a pick em fight to me), but it is the truth, I've never bet on any of his fights.

    Originally posted by BHopEx42
    Paulie Malinaggi can't stagger ANYBODY. Period. Dude has like 5 knockouts, probably against idiotic bums who he was fighting to get his name up there.
    I think he actually dropped N'Dou for the first time in his career. So I mean, it's possible. I seriously doubt he will get another real knockout though, unless it's from an overall beating.

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    • WLAD OWNS
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      #42
      Originally posted by -Antonio-
      Nah, I don't bet on any of my favorite teams, fighters, etc. That's rule number one in betting. I realize it's just points, just saying...

      You may say I'm just not confident. I'm not overly confident (it is a pick em fight to me), but it is the truth, I've never bet on any of his fights.



      I think he actually dropped N'Dou for the first time in his career. So I mean, it's possible. I seriously doubt he will get another real knockout though, unless it's from an overall beating.
      I'm cool with that, I am betting 200 bucks on Mosley though with my Puerto Rican buddy from work who is a huge fan of Cotto. He actually thinks that Cotto will KO Mosley in 6 rounds no problem, I told him he was out of his ****in mind. What do you think the actual outcome will be ?

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      • kerrminator
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        #43
        Some of you guys seem to be forgetting that Cotto is actually allowed to hit back, its not all about defense.

        Any of the wobbly moments in his career were at 140lbs where he was clearly struggling to make the weight.

        Mosely has not fought at this level for years and he will realise how old he is come fightnight.

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          #44
          Originally posted by WLAD OWNS
          I'm cool with that, I am betting 200 bucks on Mosley though with my Puerto Rican buddy from work who is a huge fan of Cotto. He actually thinks that Cotto will KO Mosley in 6 rounds no problem, I think that's ****in crazy talk. What do you think the actual outcome will be ?
          I said 11th round TKO but that's going out on a limb, and I don't expect an actual stoppage. I just think it's possible that Mosley's dad throws in the towel late because I cant fathom Mosley being stopped.

          Most likely it to be a close UD for Cotto. Somewhere in the 8-4, 7-5 range. I expect Cotto to figure Mosley out in around the fourth round, and start landing the jab a lot. I don't expect him to be overly aggressive until around the 8th when Mosley tires down a little.

          He will probably be staggered a couple of times. I'm pretty much expecting it to be on a right hook when he comes in. Mosley will double, triple up on the jab, while Cotto covers up. He will try to throw combinations from the outside and move before Cotto can get off, so Cotto will have to resort to that jab, which imo will surprise the hell out of everybody.

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          • ME123
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            #45
            I would love to see how shane deals with the pressure cotto will place on him. Shane has never seen pressured like he will get from cotto, also has shane ever been hit as hard as cotto will hit him. Cotto will bring an attck like never seen before I promise you regardless if he loses or wins he will give you 100%..
            If shane fights like hes been fighting the last 3 fights all I have to say is good night.. Shane I dar you to stand in front of cotto like you did with vargas

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            • Wiley Hyena
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              #46
              Addison quote:

              "Both want to slug - but Cotto will be the one who has to back off when they start landing."

              This is extremely enlightening statement. If you're right, then you may be right about the outcome of the fight...ie...Mosely win. I just cannot envision Cotto consistently backing off from a confrontation with Mosely. However, I may be underrating Mosely's power. Nevertheless, it's my understanding that Mosely has the reach advantage here and that's important, even if Mosely ends up the one that backs out. This is a hard fight to call. I'm still going with Cotto on young legs and determination. But, I wouldn't bet money on it.

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              • Matt Marvelous
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                #47
                Right now, I have no pick on this fight. I was leaning towards Mosley, but I've been thinking about how good Mosley really is. I think he might be a tad overrated on this board. When was the last time he beat a truly elite fighter? Oscar over 5 years ago? Cotto is definitely his toughest opponent since Oscar, in my opinion. I question what a 36 year old Shane Mosley can do that Cotto can't overcome. Zab Judah hurt Cotto, and Cotto responded by fighting even better. It's like the more hurt he gets, the more focused he becomes, unlike Zab who unravels under the same circumstance. Is Mosley really a harder puncher than Zab? It's hard to say that he is. Cotto does sacrifice some defense for offense, but the Judah fight showed me that he is versatile. His toughness is never called into question, obviously, but I think Cotto is more versatile than many give him credit for.

                I'm saving final judgement until I see the 24/7 show after Cal/Kess this Saturday.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ME123
                  I would love to see how shane deals with the pressure cotto will place on him. Shane has never seen pressured like he will get from cotto, also has shane ever been hit as hard as cotto will hit him. Cotto will bring an attck like never seen before I promise you regardless if he loses or wins he will give you 100%..
                  If shane fights like hes been fighting the last 3 fights all I have to say is good night.. Shane I dar you to stand in front of cotto like you did with vargas
                  I'd recommend the two excellent Mosley interviews here on Boxingscene.

                  Shane addresses these questions..

                  Basically, Shane Mosley LOVES to trade. It will be the opposite of everything you've ever seen Cotto in the ring with. Mosley will go down throwing haymakers. He's focusing on power for this one.

                  This is more simple than some people make it.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    Addison quote:

                    "Both want to slug - but Cotto will be the one who has to back off when they start landing."

                    This is extremely enlightening statement. If you're right, then you may be right about the outcome of the fight...ie...Mosely win. I just cannot envision Cotto consistently backing off from a confrontation with Mosely. However, I may be underrating Mosely's power. Nevertheless, it's my understanding that Mosely has the reach advantage here and that's important, even if Mosely ends up the one that backs out. This is a hard fight to call. I'm still going with Cotto on young legs and determination. But, I wouldn't bet money on it.
                    It won't take massive amounts of power for Mosley to do his business.

                    An even older slower Mosley can win this fight.


                    This ain't hard to call for me.

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                    • The Surgeon
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                      #50
                      Cotto dont hav a bad D at all, peeps act like he eats up every punch u throw at him! He duz get hit but this is boxing - FIGHTERS GET HIT! ESPECIALLY when u attack as much as Cotto! Even Floyd gets tagged more when he goes on the offence like against Corley for example.
                      His chin aint bad either, ive watched him take sum flush bombs by punchers and be fine, and he's as tough as they come with mad heart - His problem is he gets STUNNED by fast punches he duznt see coming, A HUGE Problem for him against someone as fast and powerfull as a Shane Mosley! Im still backing him tho!


                      Anybody want to make a wee bet?

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