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  • #11
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    Kessler would have to beat Calzaghe and few more TOP fighters to be even be in the same league as Leonard or Hearns.
    See, that's the thing, he got the potential to do so and Kats puts it like they are ''some monkey bums that don't really mean anything to boxing but hey, we will watch them anyway cause jerking off to outdated ****o is our only alternative" kindof way.

    This is not the first time I see this bias against european(read, nonamerican) fighters either.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by PIPBoy 2000 View Post
      See, that's the thing, he got the potential to do so and Kats puts it like they are ''some monkey bums that don't really mean anything to boxing but hey, we will watch them anyway cause jerking off to outdated ****o is our only alternative" kindof way.

      This is not the first time I see this bias against european(read, nonamerican) fighters either.
      Potential maybe, but I the kind of fighters that Hearns and Leonard fought and beat are several levels above anyone Kessler can beat at this moment. I remember this kind of hype for Calzaghe-Lacy and Joe said he was going to beat Lacy easy and he did. He says that he will beat Kessler easy, what if he does? Does that make Kessler another overhyped fighter like Lacy? If you break down the records, an arguement can be made that Lacy had just as many good wins as Kessler. Kessler may have a slightly better resume based on his wins over Mundine and Andrade.

      Also, Kessler has not been very active for a young fighter. Four fights since 2005 is not great. Calzaghe has had 5 in that time with dozens of injuries like his broken hand over and over again.

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      • #13
        this will be the 2nd best fight of 2007 (#1 hopefully will be hatton-mayweather)

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        • #14
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          Potential maybe, but I the kind of fighters that Hearns and Leonard fought and beat are several levels above anyone Kessler can beat at this moment. I remember this kind of hype for Calzaghe-Lacy and Joe said he was going to beat Lacy easy and he did. He says that he will beat Kessler easy, what if he does? Does that make Kessler another overhyped fighter like Lacy? If you break down the records, an arguement can be made that Lacy had just as many good wins as Kessler. Kessler may have a slightly better resume based on his wins over Mundine and Andrade.

          Also, Kessler has not been very active for a young fighter. Four fights since 2005 is not great. Calzaghe has had 5 in that time with dozens of injuries like his broken hand over and over again.
          From just looking at Kessler and Lacy though, it's obvious who the better fighter is.

          And didn't Kessler have more top-10 wins than Joe? Serious question.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Kaynan View Post
            From just looking at Kessler and Lacy though, it's obvious who the better fighter is.

            And didn't Kessler have more top-10 wins than Joe? Serious question.
            What do you mean as far as top ten? Calzaghe fought plenty of mandatories in his run. They must have all been ranked at 1 on the top 10, at least by the WBO.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
              What do you mean as far as top ten? Calzaghe fought plenty of mandatories in his run. They must have all been ranked at 1 on the top 10, at least by the WBO.
              Yeah. I meant ranked fighters- in any organization. So Calzaghe has fought more?

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              • #17
                If there was no supermiddleweights, these guys would fight at lhw at around 170 to 172 pounds and things wouldnt be any different. supermiddles are just shrunken down lhw's to get a little more advantage. calzaghe and kessler easily fit the frame as lhw's. I dont ask these kinds of rediculous questions though. To strictly come out and say 168's are lazy middleweights is very disrespectful in my mind. Its not calzaghe and kesslers fault that thers a division for their perfect weight. But these guys are not lazy middles, they are very talented and dedicated super middles.

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                • #18
                  I agree with this writter,Kessler and Calzaghe are far from being in the league of a Hagler or Sugar Ray Leonard way too far,Just soo far away.

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                  • #19
                    Excellent article. Don't agree with all of it, but this was a good one. One quote stands out:

                    "And I’m beginning to think maybe Ricky Hatton does have a chance against Floyd Mayweather Jr., especially since it’s not a dance….Pretty Boy enhanced his image, of course, by saying the judges were out to get him when he was booted from Arthur Murray’s."

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                    • #20
                      Anyone else catch this quote?

                      "Boxingscene.com’s Jake Donovan theorized, rather intelligently I thought for someone who writes for this site"

                      Lil *****...

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