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thread stealer is right, chavez wasnt ranked....when he fought DLH...on the other hand trinidad was ranked and there shouldnt be any controversy with that fight if de la hoya had won....****** judges...
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chavez was ranked #1 until he "drew" with whitaker.
then after the 2 fights with randall, and the rest of 1994, he was no longer on the ring's top 10 p4p list.
would u like to admit that chavez was not ranked in the ring's top 10 p4p when dlh beat him, or do you want to continue arguing and i can laugh when i prove to you that you are wrong?Comment
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Chavez was past his prime but anyway, how come no one gives him credit for beating the other fighters like Quartey, Trinidad(yes he ***ing won), Vargas, etc... instead they mention his losses, Mosley (he won the 2nd one) Hopkins..
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One thing is for sure, de la Hoya is #1 Atg ******Comment
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I don't want to take anything away from Chavez...
But that can be debated as well...
Most argue that he did have a padded record of beating up "cab drivers"
But a win over Taylor and a draw with Sweet Pea is already impressive enough...
Problem is when he did step up to world class competition, he was already getting old and was in too many fights.
But he did break many fighters' careers who were put in front of him (e.g. Taylor, Alberto de las Mercedes Cortes, Francisco Tomas Da Cruz, Rodolfo Aguilar, Kyung Duk Ahn, and many, many others)
Point is, Chavez was still a great fighter when DLH fought him, who delivered his first TKO lossLast edited by !! Mr. Soprano; 10-30-2007, 03:43 PM.Comment
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honestly, de la hoya's controversial decisions are overhyped by the fact that he was always hated for being a pretty boy...
if pernell whitaker wasnt named pernell whitaker, most people would hate how he fought de la hoya and be glad de la hoya got the nod(besides de la hoya clearly won more rounds...)....if de la hoya wasnt so hated, he would get praised for saving the quartey fight in the last round...instead, people look for every possible round to give to quartey... that fight was 114-113 either way...i lean towards de la hoya...
the sturm match, granted i can easily see sturm winning, but iits not as bad as people like to say it was....for the first 5 rounds, de la hoya was outworking the **** out of sturm...and finished strong enough to grant him either a close loss, a draw or a close win....not the schooling people like to say he got...
in fact his 2 controversial losses were even clearer wins for him than the quartey fight...how can you lose when you won at least 8 of the first 9 rounds??... how could the 3 judges give Mosley the last 5 rounds!! of the second de la hoya fight??????Comment
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felix sturm is not in the p4p top ten...as well Quartey (i think or maybe his in top 11 hehehe)..Comment
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he beat some very good fighters in addition to the cab drivers though. he beats like a who's who of top 130, 135, and 140 lb fighters from 84 to the early 90s.
his record is padded to an extent, but nearly everyone's is.
not everyone is gonna be like tszyu and face tough fighters right out the gate.Comment
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