A new Pound-for-Pound List....and it's very good!!

[Celtic_Warrior]

Taylor is a proven champion by beating the previous champion who had 20 title defenses twice. He then proved his caliber by fighting to a draw with a more technically skilled, more experienced Winky Wright.

Has Joe ever even FACED 2 fighters the caliber of Bhop and Winky?

The guy that Taylor fought was a shadow of the man that defended his title 20 times. He was 39/40 years of age?

Eubank is one of the greatest Supermiddles ever to live and Lacy was supposed to the man according to many.

[Easy-E]

Calzaghe had a contract with Showtime at the time and Jones had one with HBO, there was not enough money in that fight for the networks to come together.

Joe was not willing to cross the pond to fight Roy Jones in Vegas. It never even got to the point of conflicting promotional companies, that fight was never going to be made.

[Likely_Lad]

He defeated one of the greatest Middleweight champions ever in Hopkins....twice. Hopkins hasn't lost in over a decade before Taylor

He had a draw against a Top ranked p4p fighter in Winky Wright who also hasn't lose in a decade at that point.

He defeated two former and current jr.middleweight champions in Ouma and Spinks.

That's why.

Calzaghe has been holding on to his WBO title for way too long fighting mandatory's who dont' have a shot. His victory over Jeff Lacy is the only thing of note since he became champion years ago.

Hopkins was 40 years of age for gods sake and he still only managed close wins. Winky was also past his best and he drew. Ouma is a Light Middle, Spinks is a blown up welter.

Taylor is a talented fighter but he obviously isn't that good, be realistic.

[NAPO]

that **** is horrible winky wright??? pavlik??? rafael marquez??? na that's bull****.

[Easy-E]

The guy that Taylor fought was a shadow of the man that defended his title 20 times. He was 39/40 years of age?

Eubank is one of the greatest Supermiddles ever to live and Lacy was supposed to the man according to many.

Wow, so Hopkins was old, even though he climbed up 2 divisions and won the ring title by beating Antionio Tarver and following that with a tough decision win against Winky Wright; but Eubank, who had recently dropped two decision losses to Steve Collins and was decisioned and stopped by Carl Thompson before retiring is considered a big, important win in Joe's career.

You cannot be serious with that post.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Joe was not willing to cross the pond to fight Roy Jones in Vegas. It never even got to the point of conflicting promotional companies, that fight was never going to be made.

What promoters? It's cable company contracts and they are considered WAY before there are discussions over money. A Jones-Calzaghe fight was worth nothing back then in the US and I'm not so sure that its worth much now. In the UK it would have made an insane amount of money for both of them.

[AntonTheMeh]

fellas,arguing for hopkins because of his age is foolish.
hopkins lost to and athletic puncher[not boxer puncher]in taylor.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Wow, so Hopkins was old, even though he climbed up 2 divisions and won the ring title by beating Antionio Tarver and following that with a tough decision win against Winky Wright; but Eubank, who had recently dropped two decision losses to Steve Collins and was decisioned and stopped by Carl Thompson before retiring is considered a big, important win in Joe's career.

You cannot be serious with that post.

Steve Collins was and still is considered a great super middleweight.

[Vladimir303]

Hopkins-Trinidad was a physical mismatch. Trinidad was too small for him and so was Joppy. Lacy has being groomed as being the next Mike Tyson and all of a sudden he's washed up after Calzaghe dominated him. Before that fight, almost the entire US and UK media had Lacy a very heavy favorite.

Charles Brewer, Eubank, Bika, Byron Mitchell, Woodhall and prime Sheika are just as good as Joppy or Eastman.

Yes Lacy has been groomed as something he is not way before he accomplished anything serious but winning a sanctioning body belt.

Byron Mitchell was coming off of a loss when he fought Calzaghe and shouldn't even have gotten a title shot.

Charles Brewer lost to Anwon Echols (you know the guy hopkins has beaten twice) 2 fights ago when he fought Calzaghe.

Sheika??? Didn't he lose to the same bum Tony Booth that posts around here?

Woodhall, he lost to Beyer (a lesser champion then Calzaghe) before fighting Calzaghe.

Those 3 right there are definitely not better then Joppy or eastman at the time Hopkins fought them. Eastman only lost to Joppy when B-hop fought him and Joppy regained another belt before fighting Hopkins again.

[MickyHatton]

He defeated one of the greatest Middleweight champions ever in Hopkins....twice. Hopkins hasn't lost in over a decade before Taylor

He had a draw against a Top ranked p4p fighter in Winky Wright who also hasn't lose in a decade at that point.

He defeated two former and current jr.middleweight champions in Ouma and Spinks.

That's why.

Calzaghe has been holding on to his WBO title for way too long fighting mandatory's who dont' have a shot. His victory over Jeff Lacy is the only thing of note since he became champion years ago.

Hopkins was a great. The guy who fought Taylor was so far out of his prime it was ridiculous.

Calzaghe has fought and beaten 7 or 8 former World Champions including Lacy and Eubank and still remains undefeated after 20+ defences.

If you feel that Pavlik has done more than Calzaghe with his one win over Taylor that fine your entitled to an opinion.

IMO Kessler has done far more than Pavlik yet he's not even mentioned.