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    Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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    #51
    Originally posted by joepal
    Oh, the off-night excuse. How convenient.
    Are you saying that people don't have off-nights?

    Please tell me you are, I could enjoy a good laugh.

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #52
      Originally posted by C-Drone
      That's your opinion. Anyone can have an off night. I disagree with you. Hatton, in his prime was almost dropped by a feather fisted Luis Callozo. You base your perception of his prime, on that fight?
      Almost Dropped???????? So what?? Does Hitting the post Count as a goal??? Almosts are worth **** in real life mate.. Fact.. Hatton DID drop Collazo.. and won 8 rounds of 12 against him.. and got a UD... SO why people keep acting like getting wobbled counts as a LOSS these days astounds me..

      Mayweather in His Prime was almost Dropped By a feather fisted Corely.. Cory The feather fisted Spinks Dropped Judah.. ece ect There are 2 guys punching eachother out there eh?? people are bound to get hurt... even if they dont have "power"

      See there is a thing called forward motion... If you add that to an opposing force.. i.e. and Incoming punch.. It will essentialy double the force of impact..Sometimes more than double it.. Staying on your feet in such a situation..Is much more worthy of praise ... Than feeling some effects of it.. and saying it is a fault...

      You are a very negative poster.. Always looking for flaws.. instead of seeking reasons to praise those who have the balls to entertain you..

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      • joepal
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        #53
        Originally posted by C-Drone
        Are you saying that people don't have off-nights?

        Please tell me you are, I could enjoy a good laugh.
        No I'm not, you're a ****** for thinking I implied that. One thing's for sure though, you detract from the Mitchell victory by casually saying that KT had an off-night. Didnt you watch the fight? He took all of KT's shots and gave it his all. One could even say that maybe Mitchell fought the fight of his life. But to dismiss his victory by conveniently saying KT is too darned thoughtless if not criminal.

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        • Welter_Skelter
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          #54
          Originally posted by C-Drone
          Because in his TRUE PRIME, Kostya Tszyu was an animal. Hatton is a very very good fighter. Borderline great. We'll see if he crosses that line on the 8the of December. But Kostya Tszyu, was a PROVEN beast. And when he fought Chavez for example, (even though Chavez was badly faded) that was him in his truest prime. In the FIRST Mitchell fight, that was him in his prime. Just a machine. I happen to pick him over Hatton, that's all. And regardless of if it was his prime or not against Phillips, EVERYONE has an off night.
          Most often when Fighters have an "off night" they Want a Rematch.. no?
          Why didnt KT ever rematch Philips???

          Do you think it's possible KT discovered his Kryptonite that night?? Do you suposse just maybe Hatton and his Team.. also saw what Kostya knew that night.. ????

          Its all about styles... Mosley beats DLH ... Forrest Beats Mosley.. Mayorga beats Forrest.. so naturally Mayorga beats DLH.. right???

          It's all about styles..

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          • joepal
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            #55
            Originally posted by C-Drone
            Because in his TRUE PRIME, Kostya Tszyu was an animal. Hatton is a very very good fighter. Borderline great. We'll see if he crosses that line on the 8the of December. But Kostya Tszyu, was a PROVEN beast. And when he fought Chavez for example, (even though Chavez was badly faded) that was him in his truest prime. In the FIRST Mitchell fight, that was him in his prime. Just a machine. I happen to pick him over Hatton, that's all. And regardless of if it was his prime or not against Phillips, EVERYONE has an off night.
            So your reason is "KOSTYA TSZYU IS A BEAST THEREFORE IF HE LOSES TO MITCHELL HE HAD AN OFF-NIGHT". Really? Listen to your own words again. Is this all you can come up with?

            This coming from a guy who just screamed some posts ago "I AM A VERY INTELLIGENT POSTER!" Haha.

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            • joepal
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              #56
              Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
              Almost Dropped???????? So what?? Does Hitting the post Count as a goal??? Almosts are worth **** in real life mate.. Fact.. Hatton DID drop Collazo.. and won 8 rounds of 12 against him.. and got a UD... SO why people keep acting like getting wobbled counts as a LOSS these days astounds me..

              Mayweather in His Prime was almost Dropped By a feather fisted Corely.. Cory The feather fisted Spinks Dropped Judah.. ece ect There are 2 guys punching eachother out there eh?? people are bound to get hurt... even if they dont have "power"

              See there is a thing called forward motion... If you add that to an opposing force.. i.e. and Incoming punch.. It will essentialy double the force of impact..Sometimes more than double it.. Staying on your feet in such a situation..Is much more worthy of praise ... Than feeling some effects of it.. and saying it is a fault...

              You are a very negative poster.. Always looking for flaws.. instead of seeking reasons to praise those who have the balls to entertain you..
              I couldnt agree more. Best description about this idiot.

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                #57
                OKay, look. I'm not a negative poster. I am just balanced. I don't ONLY see the good. I see both sides. That's all. I'm not a nuthugger of Mayweather. I just don't wanna **** Hatton, either. Both are great in their own rights. Why, if I say something bad about Manny, or Hatton, or ANYONE, does that mean I'm negative or I'm hating? I'm just giving you both sides of the coin.

                What would you prefer. "Manny doesn't do anything wrong. He is basically God to me." or "Hatton should run for president of the United States. I don't care if he was born in another country. I'm going to find a way to change that ammendment for him."

                Sorry, I'm not biased for Mayweather, or ANYONE.

                TO WELTER:
                Now, I've always known, styles make fights. Don't need to teach me that. I'm saying, I just prefer Tszyu over Hatton, prime for prime. Is that a ****ing crime? Should Tszyu have gotten a rematch? Yes. I don't know why he didn't. Doesn't take away from his greatness. Could Hatton have his number? YES. I admit that. Why is it so hard for you to admit that it's possible PRIME FOR PRIME, that Tszyu beats Hatton? None of us know for sure, it's just OPINION. As far as the almost drop statement goes.. I was making a point. That he had an offnight. Or are you implying that he was having a great night? Yes, Mayweather was dazed in that fight, pretty hurt even. No big deal. I think both won their fights. So, it's just not the best night for either. Big deal. Yes, I know what forward motion is, I was making a point. That's all.

                TO JOE:
                I didn't detract from Kostya's victory over Mitchell, in the first figth. The second fight , he blew a fading Mitchell away. Great win, but not something to hang your hat on. In the first fight, Mitchell gave a great effort. Came up short. No shame in that. But, fact of the matter is, you said "The old off-night excuse" As if people don't have off-nights. I've had them. You'd have them. (Please, spare me the childish, "you must be having one tonight" comment. Very predictable) Every fighter has had one. It's just life. If you're not implying that. Then good. I was just asking.

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                  Sugar-Will O'-Hurricane
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by joepal
                  So your reason is "KOSTYA TSZYU IS A BEAST THEREFORE IF HE LOSES TO MITCHELL HE HAD AN OFF-NIGHT". Really? Listen to your own words again. Is this all you can come up with?

                  This coming from a guy who just screamed some posts ago "I AM A VERY INTELLIGENT POSTER!" Haha.

                  He didn't lose to Mitchell..... Do you even know Kostya's history? He lost to Vince Phillips. And, I think that was an off-night. Besides, he SHOULD have rematched. He didn't. He did come back and show how great he was, though. Unless, you think he wsn't great. In which case, Hatton's victory wouldn't mean much to you.

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                  • Rudyo
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                    #59
                    Yes, yes he is.

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                    • slicksouthpaw16
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                      Almost Dropped???????? So what?? Does Hitting the post Count as a goal??? Almosts are worth **** in real life mate.. Fact.. Hatton DID drop Collazo.. and won 8 rounds of 12 against him.. and got a UD... SO why people keep acting like getting wobbled counts as a LOSS these days astounds me..
                      Mayweather in His Prime was almost Dropped By a feather fisted Corely.. Cory The feather fisted Spinks Dropped Judah.. ece ect There are 2 guys punching eachother out there eh?? people are bound to get hurt... even if they dont have "power"

                      See there is a thing called forward motion... If you add that to an opposing force.. i.e. and Incoming punch.. It will essentialy double the force of impact..Sometimes more than double it.. Staying on your feet in such a situation..Is much more worthy of praise ... Than feeling some effects of it.. and saying it is a fault...

                      You are a very negative poster.. Always looking for flaws.. instead of seeking reasons to praise those who have the balls to entertain you..
                      when hatton was knocked down by collazo in the 12th he was seriously hurt but the ref did not rule it as a knock down. collazo was not hurt at all during the fight even with hattons overratted body punching. i actually had collazo winning by a point even with the BS knockdowns that hatton scored.

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