Hatton: "I'm Alot More Clever Than People Think"

[Wiley Hyena]

But if he beats Hatton, then FMJ would have beaten the best at 140. And a man who is actually bigger than him.

Agreed?

Agreed that he will have beaten the best at 140 ....post Tszyu. As to the bigger man comment....we'll Floyd is taller and has a much greater reach. It's a wash.

[Unseen]

But if he beats Hatton, then FMJ would have beaten the best at 140. And a man who is actually bigger than him.

Agreed?

from my poll more people think floyld is bigger. agree?

[Jim Jeffries]

Maxy,

There are many people who share that perspective.

You would have a hard time finding Tszyu on many (ANY?) ATG lists. And he isn't in the upper echelon of many (so-called) experts' top JWW's lists.

He was stopped twice at his best weight class by two contemporaries. Without redemption for either.

You have to acknowledge the fecal matter on his curriculum vitae.

Well it looks like Ring Magazine has him at #67 on the Greatest Punchers Of All Time. But what do they know?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_Magazine's_list_of_100_greatest_punchers_of_a ll_time

[Wiley Hyena]

A greatest puncher list is not a "greatest fighter" list. FAAAAAAAAR different.
You don't know that?

Is Ernie Shavers on that greatest puncher list?

But I'm willing to scan any link that has Zoo as an ATG. Please send.

Yeah,,but it's interesting anyway. I don't remember seeing Floyd on that list, anywhere.

[SkillspayBills]

I can't wait for fight not. WAR BOXING.

[Maxy]

Maxy,

There are many people who share that perspective.

You would have a hard time finding Tszyu on many (ANY?) ATG lists. And he isn't in the upper echelon of many (so-called) experts' top JWW's lists.

He was stopped twice at his best weight class by two contemporaries. Without redemption for either.

You have to acknowledge the fecal matter on his curriculum vitae.

Well like I already said, I disagree with the people who share that perspective.

Curriculum vitae? Well its a resume where I'm from.

[Vladimir303]

Vladimere....history is replete with great champs having a bad night. I'll name another: Max Schmelling KOing Joe Louis. It's getting off the canvas to reclaim the championship...that's the mark of a true champion. In Tszyu's case, not only did he win it back, he unified the titles for the first time in 30 years. This is why he is HOF and one of the all time greats.

Once again you're missing the point or you are just chosing to ignore it.

Vince Phillips was a bum AND Kostya never fought him again to avenge his loss. I'm sure he could have fought him since he became the champion again and Vince would have loved to get another shot at the title.

It never happened.

And he is not one of the All time greats....not even close. That one you pulled out of your ass again.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Another bull**** post. And for your information if you'll look at The Ring's #67 greatest puncher....you'll find your favorite boxer...one certain Kostya Tszyu.

#10. Ernie Shavers

# 25 Julian Jackson

# 46 Naseem hamed

# 48 david Tua

# 67 Kostya Tszyu

#70 Donovan "Razor Ruddock



Nice list. You must be very proud.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Well like I already said, I disagree with the people who share that perspective.

Curriculum vitae? Well its a resume where I'm from.

I just wanted to ensure that you understood that there was IN NO WAY consensus around Tszyu's greatness.

....It's my way of saying that Tszyu has a ****ty resume.

[Wiley Hyena]

Once again you're missing the point or you are just chosing to ignore it.

Vince Phillips was a bum AND Kostya never fought him again to avenge his loss. I'm sure he could have fought him since he became the champion again and Vince would have loved to get another shot at the title.

It never happened.

And he is not one of the All time greats....not even close. That one you pulled out of your ass again.

What point am I ignoring you little twit? The Mayweatherite point was to maximize Tszyu's loss to Phillips into some career destroying night. I just showed it wasn't at all. Now you're wanting to change the subject into some debate about whether or not Tszyu should have given a "rematch" to Phillips. Phillips won the first fight. Why is he now entitled to a "rematch?" lol The reasoning is so ******. By the time Tszyu reclaimed the titles, Phillips was a journeyman. Why would Tszyu waste time on a nowhere fight, when there are legitimate contenders that would bring big money fights?