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  • Dirt E Gomez
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    #81
    I like Cintron a lot. However, he wont win this fight. Cintron is a better skilled boxer than Margarito, but he's not lightyears ahead of him. It'll be a replay of Williams-Margarito, but maybe even a knockdown if Williams sits down on some punches.

    I'll definitely be rooting for Kermit though.

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    • ElGranLuchador
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      #82
      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
      I like Cintron a lot. However, he wont win this fight. Cintron is a better skilled boxer than Margarito, but he's not lightyears ahead of him. It'll be a replay of Williams-Margarito, but maybe even a knockdown if Williams sits down on some punches.

      I'll definitely be rooting for Kermit though.
      i dont think kermit is gonna go the margarito way with that ****sexual manny stewart on his corner hes gonna fight smart

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      • ferocity
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        #83
        Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
        I like Cintron a lot. However, he wont win this fight. Cintron is a better skilled boxer than Margarito, but he's not lightyears ahead of him. It'll be a replay of Williams-Margarito, but maybe even a knockdown if Williams sits down on some punches.

        I'll definitely be rooting for Kermit though.
        Williams doesn't hit any harder then Margarito or Cintron. I dont' see Cintron being dropped in this fight.

        The way Williams can win is by his holding and hitting method.

        I hope Emanuel Steward has already studied the Williams holding and hitting style, it will play a huge part in Williams winning. Cause i know that as of late Cintron will also a fighter to hold him and Cintron stays relaxed in there. Which is good but not against a fighter like Williams who wants you to relax on the inside then a second later he turns you, or steps out and hits you. This is Williams major startagy in all his fights. Cintron has to beware of this.
        Last edited by ferocity; 10-27-2007, 01:24 AM.

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        • eazy_mas
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          #84
          For Cintron he just in a punch and it is game over. But I think the fight is going abit further then other Cintron fight.

          Basicly 6'1 southpaw is pretty hard to beat stylewise. He makes alot of spacing between him and his oppenets

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            #85
            Originally posted by ferocity
            Williams doesn't hit any harder then Margarito or Cintron. I dont' see Cintron being dropped in this fight.

            The way Williams can win is by his holding and hitting method.

            I hope Emanuel Steward has already studied the Williams holding and hitting style, it will play a huge part in Williams winning. Cause i know that as of late Cintron will also a fighter to hold him and Cintron stays relaxed in there. Which is good but not against a fighter like Williams who wants you to relax on the inside then a second later he turns you, or steps out and hits you. This is Williams major startagy in all his fights. Cintron has to beware of this.
            He doesn't have to hit harder. He will land more shots. Williams has enough power to man up and throw some tough shots when needed to. He chose to coast and continue to box, which is fine, but don't be shocked if he starts to put some power behind his punches.

            Steward in anybody's corner raises their stock. If Kermit listens to and takes instructions well then there's a really good chance of him taking a lot of the later rounds and punching a hole through Williams defense.

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              #86
              Originally posted by crillz
              he would have to be born all over again and hope, write Santa Clause that be on here a few letters wishing he could come back in that golden and unfathomable era of Boxing where Robinson came up in.. no fighter todays is even half the fighter Robinson was, he set the bar too high to a point where number 2 is now number 1 and number 3 is now number 2 because the #1 spot is his and nor Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones in any era will ever compare, personally Floyd isn't even top 10 in all time status, I would rank Roy Jones Jr higher than him and this is coming from someone who favors Floyd in a lot of things, I like his style and I respect his hustle but even HE himself will tell you what I just wrote, the top 10 all time includes names like Armstrong, Louis, Robinson, Ali, Pep and the likes of guys in that stature.. Boxing wont ever be like that again, they don't even do 15 rounds no more, the training was a 100% harder and they performed 100% better (i.e; Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard and all others who apply).. that is a time in Boxing that we wont get to relive, that was the golden era with the golden fighters, this whole new breed of Boxing is no comparison to back then, Imagine Carlos Monzon against Kelly Pavlik yo, like Mobb Deep said on their hook to a song, that fight "is murda, it be straight murda".. Monzon would have slumped Both Taylor and Pavlik equally, they just don't make guys like that no more, don't get me wrong we have many greats but they shatter in comparison, for every 1 great current current champion I can name 2 or 3 better guys who held those same exact belts.. true story. 100


              Being the best of your era should hold alot of weight. Things were so much different back than we don't even know how good the fighters from yesteryear would fair now. We have an IDEA of how they would fair but we just don't know. Era's have their own greats, rules, and abilities. So being the best of YOUR particular era should mean alot, IMO.

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                #87
                if by some odd ass chance that floyd fights pavlik after hatton and beats him,how the **** does that not make 'em the greatest?you think ray robinson would've beaten patterson or marciano?**** no.i want to see cotto mayweather,but i give props when it's due,a former super feather beating a big ass hard hitting middle?come on.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by ANTONIM
                  i concur....for the most part,but floyd beating pavlik...
                  come on....
                  that's insane..
                  everybody knows that today's athletes are better conditioned than in yesteryear.
                  if floyd beat him he would supplant robinson as the greatest to me.
                  just cause i don't see it happening.
                  better conditioned? there were 15 round fights back then and even more back in the beginning days, Robinson had 250+ fights ALL being 15 rounds meaning he fought at least twice a month in fights that went 3 rounds longer than ones today, his whole life was spent from the ring to the gym yo he was a true beast.. he was in constant training for fights that were going 15 rounds, fighting more than 10 times per year and you mean to tell me Floyd Mayweather Jr who averages 2 fights a year maybe 3 is going to be a better conditioned athlete? I truly resent that dogz, Floyd could step up and KO Joe Calzaghe in 1 round and he still wont be a Sugar Ray Robinson.. see the thing is that would be only 1 truly monumental thing Floyd would do but Sugar Ray did **** like that plenty of times, like clockwork.. 100

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by skilspaydabills
                    Being the best of your era should hold alot of weight. Things were so much different back than we don't even know how good the fighters from yesteryear would fair now. We have an IDEA of how they would fair but we just don't know. Era's have their own greats, rules, and abilities. So being the best of YOUR particular era should mean alot, IMO.
                    it does mean a whole lot and he gets ALL the credit he deserves and then some from me but if thats the case then you have to go based on accomplishments because 200 years from now thats all people will see, just like now it will be the old ass wrinkled experts saying just how great a fighter is that the younger generation of the fans wont know **** about, hence you will have to look at the accomplishments and their overall career's, no doubt Floyd is the best of our era, he competed in enough weight classes to make that claim but you honestly telling me he's up there with Sugar Ray Robinson? not hardly, there are Sugar Ray victims that are better than Floyd let alone Robinson himself, we ain't talking about 2 different worlds here we talking about 2 different galaxies.. 100

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by crillz
                      better conditioned? there were 15 round fights back then and even more back in the beginning days, Robinson had 250+ fights ALL being 15 rounds meaning he fought at least twice a month in fights that went 3 rounds longer than ones today, his whole life was spent from the ring to the gym yo he was a true beast.. he was in constant training for fights that were going 15 rounds, fighting more than 10 times per year and you mean to tell me Floyd Mayweather Jr who averages 2 fights a year maybe 3 is going to be a better conditioned athlete? I truly resent that dogz, Floyd could step up and KO Joe Calzaghe in 1 round and he still wont be a Sugar Ray Robinson.. see the thing is that would be only 1 truly monumental thing Floyd would do but Sugar Ray did **** like that plenty of times, like clockwork.. 100
                      You think because Floyd fights 12 rounds, which is THE RULES today he isn't as good a conditioned athlete that SRR. Floyd fights 15 rounds without a bell. Rounds can go on for 5 or 6 minutes before it is stopped. They both trained year round and were both well conditioned. Noone can be as good as the greatest from yesteryear, people of this day made reaching that level impossible.

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