Why do you like/dislike Mayweather???

[deevel79]

like: despite the detractors who put floyd down as safety first fighter shy of slugging it out in the trenches floyd mayweather jr systematically broke down one hell of a fighter in genaro hernandez a year after turning pro ( most of you wont need me to tell you gh only other loss was to oscar). floyd runs his mouth off alot which i hate in a fighter but over the last decade he has backed that talk up, which i like.

And that was HOW LONG AGO? I dont take anything away from Floyd from what he did at the lighter weights. Its the current Floyd that i personally dont like. If moving up in weight is going to affect your performance, and turn u into a 1 and done type of fighter, then dont move up. If there was ever a time when Floyd had the right to run his mouth the way he does, it was when he was actually KO'ing people at the lighter weights.

[Fox McCloud]

And that was HOW LONG AGO? I dont take anything away from Floyd from what he did at the lighter weights. Its the current Floyd that i personally dont like. If moving up in weight is going to affect your performance, and turn u into a 1 and done type of fighter, then dont move up. If there was ever a time when Floyd had the right to run his mouth the way he does, it was when he was actually KO'ing people at the lighter weights.

Did he break Judah down?
How about Sharmba Mitchell?
Gatti?
Bruseles?
Corley?
N'dou?

Now, on the other hand...

Who has broken Carlos Baldomir down?
How about De La Hoya?

Go ahead and tell me Hopkins did, so I can tell you that the light heavyweight fighting at middleweight didn't "break" De La Hoya down, he stopped him a single body shot, with the force of a middleweight body behind it. I doubt any welterweight could stop De La Hoya. You can look at De La Hoya's record at welterweight and tell me I'm right.

You all act like it was incumbent on Floyd to stop two fighters who have almost never been stopped, or else his victory is somehow tainted.

[eazy_mas]

And that was HOW LONG AGO? I dont take anything away from Floyd from what he did at the lighter weights. Its the current Floyd that i personally dont like. If moving up in weight is going to affect your performance, and turn u into a 1 and done type of fighter, then dont move up. If there was ever a time when Floyd had the right to run his mouth the way he does, it was when he was actually KO'ing people at the lighter weights.

well and schooling people at WW and super WW too.

as long as he is winning it okay the trash talk is only to psych him for the fight.

People forget part of boxing is to hit without being hit and Mayweather doesnt it perfectly nearly

[deevel79]

Did he break Judah down?
How about Sharmba Mitchell?
Gatti?
Bruseles?
Corley?
N'dou?

Now, on the other hand...

Who has broken Carlos Baldomir down?
How about De La Hoya?

Go ahead and tell me Hopkins did, so I can tell you that the light heavyweight fighting at middleweight didn't "break" De La Hoya down, he stopped him a single body shot, with the force of a middleweight body behind it. I doubt any welterweight could stop De La Hoya. You can look at De La Hoya's record at welterweight and tell me I'm right.

You all act like it was incumbent on Floyd to stop two fighters who have almost never been stopped, or else his victory is somehow tainted.

Gatti?, Bruseles?, old man Mitchell? Shame on you to mention those names as major accomplishments by Floyd.

As far as Baldo and Hoya. Clottey was whooping Baldo's ass before he got Dq'd for the headbutt. Secondly, everyone would have to agree with me that Felix Sturm made better work of Delahoya than Floyd did.

[deevel79]

well and schooling people at WW and super WW too.

as long as he is winning it okay the trash talk is only to psych him for the fight.

People forget part of boxing is to hit without being hit and Mayweather doesnt it perfectly nearly

Theres more to boxing than just hit without being hit. Its also about imposing your will on your opponent and breaking him down mentally and physically. If it were just about hitting without being hit, every fighter would just go in and connect a few b.s punches, then run around the ring to avoid getting hit.

[big paulie]

And that was HOW LONG AGO? I dont take anything away from Floyd from what he did at the lighter weights. Its the current Floyd that i personally dont like. If moving up in weight is going to affect your performance, and turn u into a 1 and done type of fighter, then dont move up. If there was ever a time when Floyd had the right to run his mouth the way he does, it was when he was actually KO'ing people at the lighter weights.

regardless of how long ago it was it still shows you how talented this guy is i mean you tell me how many fighters win a wbc title a year after turning pro and then collect the damn things like trinkets thru 5 weight classes over the next decade

[big paulie]

Gatti?, Bruseles?, old man Mitchell? Shame on you to mention those names as major accomplishments by Floyd.

As far as Baldo and Hoya. Clottey was whooping Baldo's ass before he got Dq'd for the headbutt. Secondly, everyone would have to agree with me that Felix Sturm made better work of Delahoya than Floyd did.

sturm was a big strong middleweight, bigger than oscar. not a great comparison

[Fox McCloud]

Gatti?, Bruseles?, old man Mitchell? Shame on you to mention those names as major accomplishments by Floyd.

As far as Baldo and Hoya. Clottey was whooping Baldo's ass before he got Dq'd for the headbutt. Secondly, everyone would have to agree with me that Felix Sturm made better work of Delahoya than Floyd did.

No one said major accomplishments, I just said that Floyd isn't a all defense, no offense fighter, and listed those fights as examples.

Clottey did not have Baldomir even close to KO'd, so he, in effect, just won all the rounds, like Floyd did.

Sturm is a natural 160 pounder... Mayweather is a natural 140 pounder...

Sturm fought a De La Hoya who moved up, Mayweather fought a De La Hoya who was moving down. There is a reason Sturm did better work on Oscar. You know that.

[eazy_mas]

Theres more to boxing than just hit without being hit. Its also about imposing your will on your opponent and breaking him down mentally and physically. If it were just about hitting without being hit, every fighter would just go in and connect a few b.s punches, then run around the ring to avoid getting hit.

yeah but not all could do it. and imposing you will to you opponent happen before entering the ring. The person who prepares well for the fight and traines the hardest and longest as well as the smartest usally wins the fight. People are trained to do certain stuff and it not smart to go there and knowing you oppenet pros and trying to out pro him.

Imagine Margarito will try to box when is by nature is a pressure fighter.

Part of boxing is using you brains and people who think like that usally end up retirment place or loss the fight. one example id Gerald McCluman the G-man the person with an iron chin and devaste power, he had a mentalitiy saying he will fight anyone and anywhere look at him now. Does his fan stand by him will he ever regain part of his body to go on at least like a normal person?

[deevel79]

regardless of how long ago it was it still shows you how talented this guy is i mean you tell me how many fighters win a wbc title a year after turning pro and then collect the damn things like trinkets thru 5 weight classes over the next decade

I've already said that i give him his due from what he did early on in his career. I just find it hard to give the so-called pfp#1 fighter in the world credit for beating the likes of: Gatti and Baldomir, then have him say that he dominated and beat the best at 140 and 147. We all know for damn sure that Gatti was NOT the best at 140 at the time, and Baldo was NOT the best at 147. Yes they were the current title holders, but they were NOT the best.