Berto: "Hatton Will Beat Mayweather"

[Fox McCloud]

Although I agree that it's unlikely Floyd gets stopped I still notive that you are using the triangular logic you always decry in everyone else.

How is that triangle logic?

That is comparing Hatton's offensive record to Floyd's defensive record.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Although I agree that it's unlikely Floyd gets stopped I still notive that you are using the triangular logic you always decry in everyone else.

Squizzy,

If Floyd Mayweather says that he is gonna KO Oscar Delahoya, you would be skeptical. Because Oscar hasn't been KO'd, and Floyd hasn't KO'd many people at the higher weights.

SIMILARLY,
I am saying that it is improbable that Hatton will KO Floyd because Floyd hasn't been hurt, and Hatton has gone the distance with many guys of late.

That isn't triangular logic. That is deductive reasoning.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Berto made a decent argument. I don't agree. But it's a decent argument. Mayweather, LATE TKO.

[squealpiggy]

Squizzy,

If Floyd Mayweather says that he is gonna KO Oscar Delahoya, you would be skeptical. Because Oscar hasn't been KO'd, and Floyd hasn't KO'd many people at the higher weights.

SIMILARLY,
I am saying that it is improbable that Hatton will KO Floyd because Floyd hasn't been hurt, and Hatton has gone the distance with many guys of late.

That isn't triangular logic. That is deductive reasoning.

First off I'm skeptical that Hatton would KO Floyd. Hatton is a stoppage guy and his record attests to that, but I don't think that he'll catch Floyd clean enough and early enough to wear him down for the stoppage.

Having said that to suggest that Hatton didn't stop Collazo, Urango, Phillips, Vilches or Tackie therefore he won't stop Mayweather is using triangular logic. You could have said the same thing about knocking out Castillo (never been down, only been stopped on cuts apart from the first fight with Chico) but you would have been wrong.

And when I objected to the notion that Hatton would be knocked out like Gatti was by mentioning that Gatti has been knocked down and knocked out by many people therefore Hatton who has been down once is unlikely to be stopped by Floyd you accused me of using triangular logic. Apparently it was erronious on your part as I was merely engaging in deductive reasoning.

[THe TRiNiTY]

First off I'm skeptical that Hatton would KO Floyd. Hatton is a stoppage guy and his record attests to that, but I don't think that he'll catch Floyd clean enough and early enough to wear him down for the stoppage.

Having said that to suggest that Hatton didn't stop Collazo, Urango, Phillips, Vilches or Tackie therefore he won't stop Mayweather is using triangular logic. You could have said the same thing about knocking out Castillo (never been down, only been stopped on cuts apart from the first fight with Chico) but you would have been wrong.

And when I objected to the notion that Hatton would be knocked out like Gatti was by mentioning that Gatti has been knocked down and knocked out by many people therefore Hatton who has been down once is unlikely to be stopped by Floyd you accused me of using triangular logic. Apparently it was erronious on your part as I was merely engaging in deductive reasoning.

That's not triangular logic. Triangular logic is using, in essence, one particular fight, and judging based upon that, what you'd assume would happen in this fight, involving one of the fighters from the former fight. That's not taking place here. Mayweather has NEVER been stopped, and Hatton has only stopped on person in his last three fights (a shot Castillo)

Triangular logic would be that since Hatton beat Castillo easily, and that Mayweather struggled, it means Hatton is the better fighter. You'd be wrong in saying that, but it's still triangular logic.

[SkillspayBills]

First off I'm skeptical that Hatton would KO Floyd. Hatton is a stoppage guy and his record attests to that, but I don't think that he'll catch Floyd clean enough and early enough to wear him down for the stoppage.

Having said that to suggest that Hatton didn't stop Collazo, Urango, Phillips, Vilches or Tackie therefore he won't stop Mayweather is using triangular logic. You could have said the same thing about knocking out Castillo (never been down, only been stopped on cuts apart from the first fight with Chico) but you would have been wrong.

And when I objected to the notion that Hatton would be knocked out like Gatti was by mentioning that Gatti has been knocked down and knocked out by many people therefore Hatton who has been down once is unlikely to be stopped by Floyd you accused me of using triangular logic. Apparently it was erronious on your part as I was merely engaging in deductive reasoning.

Squeal vs DD is like the battle of heavyweights, it's always an interesting debate between the two.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

And when I objected to the notion that Hatton would be knocked out like Gatti was by mentioning that Gatti has been knocked down and knocked out by many people therefore Hatton who has been down once is unlikely to be stopped by Floyd you accused me of using triangular logic. Apparently it was erronious on your part as I was merely engaging in deductive reasoning.

And I may have misinterpreted. And I may have been wrong.

But my opinion of PBF stopping Hatton is based on the following things:

1) PBF has a history of punishing guys his size as the fight progresses into the middle/late rounds: Gatti, Corley, Bruseles, Judah, Mitchell, etc. These are 140ers. (yeah, zab and Sharmba, too)

2) Ricky has a tendency to bust up. I've posted his pic post-Collazo, and he was even swelling after 4 relatively easy rounds with JLC.

3) In his most recent 12 round fights, Hatton did not finish strong. I realize that he has been a strong finisher IN THE PAST, but in the intervening 2+ years post-Tszyu, he has not evidenced that.

Now, someone may disagree with my opinion. COOL. That is the mission of this forum. But at least acknowledge that my opinion is grounded in SOME thought.

[Jim Jeffries]

Squizzy,

If Floyd Mayweather says that he is gonna KO Oscar Delahoya, you would be skeptical. Because Oscar hasn't been KO'd, and Floyd hasn't KO'd many people at the higher weights.

SIMILARLY,
I am saying that it is improbable that Hatton will KO Floyd because Floyd hasn't been hurt, and Hatton has gone the distance with many guys of late.

That isn't triangular logic. That is deductive reasoning.

I guess you missed the Hopkins fight then eh, big guy?

[THe TRiNiTY]

I guess you missed the Hopkins fight then eh, big guy?

Does that one fight, against a naturally bigger guy, really change the reasoning behind his post? You think Mayweather could knock out the guys that Hopkins has knocked out?

[WLAD OWNS]

Berto is a smart man and he knows his stuff.