Tougher Fight: Tszyu @ 140... or Delahoya @ 154?

[Fox McCloud]

ON top of that, why does it matter? He thinks Manny Pacquiao is the best.. or that Hatton is.. Who cares.. It doesn't change the fighters, at all.

Yeah... I have yet to understand the people who get angry on here...

unless their favorite fighter has been directly insulted, and it has to be something that is ridiculously untrue for me to get angry.

Otherwise I just calmly argue why I think x is good, has a better resume, clearly won x fight. Whatever.

I enjoy argument... I don't enjoy personal attacks, etc.

[THe TRiNiTY]

So tell me, in me predicting the MAB upset by Pac (and the exact way it came down) or predicting the Vasquez KO Marquez or even the McBride upset, how can you say that the armchair analyst was better than me WITH REGARDS TO THOSE FIGHTS if he chose wrong?

Because those are only three fights. The Ring Magazine has been wrong about more fights than you've probably ever made a prediction on. It also has WAAAAAY more RIGHT calls, then you have calls at all. Not knocking you, that's just the truth. They call any semi-important to COMPLETELY important fight. They're bound to be wrong, tons of times. They happen to be right WAY more though.

[Unseen]

Tougher fight? Ricky hatton first kosta tzyu or Floyld vs del hoya?

obviously kosta is the 140 king. hatton wasn't a very big name at the time. i feel his achievments over kosta was bigger because hatton was almost a no body in terms of world acknowledgement of his boxing. kosta seemed to be ij shape still because the rounds were fairly even. he fought all the way till the 11th. he however was tactically out thought and couldnt land in his rights. people still thought that hatton would not win. it was closer than i thought when i re watch.

floyld is in his prime and fought a clearly at of shape oscar. i mean he looked dehydrated at weigh in. who knows. however it was clear that the last half of the fight oscar was gassiing. i mean oscar is a big name, but floyld could get any fight right now. hes the champ. he went for a guy who is past his prime. i mean think about it, did anypne really think logically that socar was gonna win? or just hoped he win cause of the hatred for floyld.

so i feel hatton vs kosta at 140 is tougher than flyold vs oscar at 154. a fit oscar and kosta would beat them both.

[joepal]

I agree with you on most of this... the only problem is... pretty much EVERYONE has Mayweather as #1. He hasn't lost either.

Why do you get so angry when people think Mayweather is the best? I mean, it may not be true, but no one has been able to expose that as of yet (in the ring I mean), and you know that you sure as hell aren't going to be able to take Mayweather fans' beliefs away that he is the best.

That's where you are wrong again. Many if not all Asian boxing writers and some European have Pac number one p4p. And who cares if he's unbeaten? Solis was unbeaten. Lucero was unbeaten. Lots are unbeaten.

And Castillo actually beat Floyd.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Yeah... I have yet to understand the people who get angry on here...

unless their favorite fighter has been directly insulted, and it has to be something that is ridiculously untrue for me to get angry.

Otherwise I just calmly argue why I think x is good, has a better resume, clearly won x fight. Whatever.

I enjoy argument... I don't enjoy personal attacks, etc.

Nor do I. I even regret calling joepal a dumb ****. But at the end of the day, it was more of a backhand at what he was saying then an actual jab at him, personally. Regardless, it's just a message board.

By the way, notice the gap on this poll closing, yet no one is posting WHY?

[THe TRiNiTY]

That's where you are wrong again. Many if not all Asian boxing writers and some European have Pac number one p4p. And who cares if he's unbeaten? Solis was unbeaten. Lucero was unbeaten. Lots are unbeaten.

And Castillo actually beat Floyd.

Then answer this, WHY DO YOU CARE? You have your opinion, and think he's number one. Does that REALLY change anything that happens in the ring?

[THe TRiNiTY]

obviously kosta is the 140 king. hatton wasn't a very big name at the time. i feel his achievments over kosta was bigger because hatton was almost a no body in terms of world acknowledgement of his boxing. kosta seemed to be ij shape still because the rounds were fairly even. he fought all the way till the 11th. he however was tactically out thought and couldnt land in his rights. people still thought that hatton would not win. it was closer than i thought when i re watch.

floyld is in his prime and fought a clearly at of shape oscar. i mean he looked dehydrated at weigh in. who knows. however it was clear that the last half of the fight oscar was gassiing. i mean oscar is a big name, but floyld could get any fight right now. hes the champ. he went for a guy who is past his prime. i mean think about it, did anypne really think logically that socar was gonna win? or just hoped he win cause of the hatred for floyld.

so i feel hatton vs kosta at 140 is tougher than flyold vs oscar at 154. a fit oscar and kosta would beat them both.

Well, you make a fair argument. That's appreciated.

[joepal]

Because those are only three fights. The Ring Magazine has been wrong about more fights than you've probably ever made a prediction on. It also has WAAAAAY more RIGHT calls, then you have calls at all. Not knocking you, that's just the truth. They call any semi-important to COMPLETELY important fight. They're bound to be wrong, tons of times. They happen to be right WAY more though.

Which only reinforces my theory that there is no monopoly of boxing knowledge. Why did I choose Pac over MAB? BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN ALL HIS FIGHTS and compared them with a couple of MAB fights. You know if you really saw all of Pac's fights you wouldnt really say that Pac would be biting-off more than he can chew in challenging the much bigger MAB in '03, which is exactly what the experts were basically saying going into that fight.

[joepal]

Then answer this, WHY DO YOU CARE? You have your opinion, and think he's number one. Does that REALLY change anything that happens in the ring?

WTF?! Just pointing out my observations that's all. This is a messagboard right?

[joepal]

Yeah... I have yet to understand the people who get angry on here...

unless their favorite fighter has been directly insulted, and it has to be something that is ridiculously untrue for me to get angry.

Otherwise I just calmly argue why I think x is good, has a better resume, clearly won x fight. Whatever.

I enjoy argument... I don't enjoy personal attacks, etc.

Listen to yourself. Floyd fans are by far THE MOST SENSITIVE POSTERS in all of internet boxing.

And I dont as a rule make personal attacks, unless someone attacks me first.