Tougher Fight: Tszyu @ 140... or Delahoya @ 154?

[THe TRiNiTY]

Ok, tell me. On what occassion have you disagreed with Dios on Floyd? And on what occasion have you agreed with him?

Well, essentially, I just did on his list of people he finds better than Kostya Tszyu, we disagree on Shane Mosley.. He doesn't think too highly of Tszyu or Hatton, and I do.. need more examples?

Those things were all started (other than the Mosley issue) based on conversations involving Mayweather, and we disagree. We agree with Mayweather is a great fighter, and we're biased nuthuggers.. Riiiiiight. That makes sense. We're the only two that think that.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I think he fits in decently enough with those guys, but this still raises a valid point. It's not like they'd pick him over many of those guys listed.

And if you look at the number of guys from the modern era, it's not like the Hall has been taking LOADS of folks.

Tszyu's problem is that he toiled in the same divisions (roughly) as guys who did A LOT more work.

He beat alot of journeymen.... but Zab and Sharmba as his top end may not be enough. He was never in a "legendary" fight either.

He's borderline IBHOF.

[Wiley Hyena]

And if you look at the number of guys from the modern era, it's not like the Hall has been taking LOADS of folks.

Tszyu's problem is that he toiled in the same divisions (roughly) as guys who did A LOT more work.

He beat alot of journeymen.... but Zab and Sharmba as his top end may not be enough. He was never in a "legendary" fight either.

He's borderline IBHOF.

Go run along and play Dios. We're having a boxing conversation here.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Go run along and play Dios. We're having a boxing conversation here.

Is that really even a good response to something he said that was fairly sensible? I disagree with him on that, too. I'm just saying.

He unified the division, and was beaten only twice. He also beat three or four very quality fighters, and a faded legend or two. Regardless, made some nice defenses, and I think he'd make it to the HOF.. I don't know about 2010, though.

[joepal]

Well, essentially, I just did on his list of people he finds better than Kostya Tszyu, we disagree on Shane Mosley.. He doesn't think to highly of Tszyu or Hatton, and I do.. need more examples?

You have to give a lot more examples on when you disagreed with Dios because agreeing with his "UD DLH > TKO KT", which by far is his most outlandish theory related to Floyd implies that you gave your imprimatur to a whole lot of his other biased contentions.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Go run along and play Dios. We're having a boxing conversation here.

he best way to do it is not to respond. You're ****ing it up, man

[joepal]

Well, essentially, I just did on his list of people he finds better than Kostya Tszyu, we disagree on Shane Mosley.. He doesn't think too highly of Tszyu or Hatton, and I do.. need more examples?

Those things were all started (other than the Mosley issue) based on conversations involving Mayweather, and we disagree. We agree with Mayweather is a great fighter, and we're biased nuthuggers.. Riiiiiight. That makes sense. We're the only two that think that.

Did you just say that Dios is NOT a biased nuthugger?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Fox McCloud]

Go run along and play Dios. We're having a boxing conversation here.

Do you not think those are valid points?

It has nothing to do with how good of a fighter Tszyu is... it basically says that all of the "good fighters" that he fought never really panned out to be great. Meaning, Sharmba Mitchell was a good champion, but will not really be remembered as a great champion, and Judah had the potential to be great, but he just didn't pan out to be a superstar like he was supposed to.

It's also just a prediction about how the IBHOF will observe his resume...

I really don't see why you are getting defensive about this post.

[THe TRiNiTY]

You have to give a lot more examples on when you disagreed with Dios because agreeing with his "UD DLH > TKO KT", which by far is his most outlandish theory related to Floyd implies that you gave your imprimatur to a whole lot of his other biased contentions.

I implied nothing. You took it upon yourself to read into something assuming it was an implication. I don't need to name more things. I named actually more things that we disagree on, than you can name things we AGREE on. We agree on Mayweather and his number one standing. We also agree on the fact that he'd beat Kostya Tszyu. I also think beating De La Hoya at 154 means more.. That's it.. It all really involves Mayweather.. because otherwise, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things.

[Wiley Hyena]

Is that really even a good response to something he said that was fairly sensible? I disagree with him on that, too. I'm just saying.

He unified the division, and was beaten only twice. He also beat three or four very quality fighters, and a faded legend or two. Regardless, made some nice defenses, and I think he'd make it to the HOF.. I don't know about 2010, though.

We have a difference of opinion here. Most especially on your opinion of his record...the fadeds and the decents. As if Mayweather has a better record, but that's another subject.

But, that's ok. I saw him fight and with the exception of certain boxers that would not fight him at all, he cleaned his division out. I'll go with that.