Tougher Fight: Tszyu @ 140... or Delahoya @ 154?

[joepal]

Fighters don't quit on their stool. No matter what. It doesn't take away past accomplishments, but it shows that you don't have it in you anymore to fight. Has Kostya fought since? The long layoff and surgeries, combined with being 36 had more to do with his "un-priming" than Hatton. One night doesn't put you out of your prime. Hatton was great that night, Tszyu was not. That is the whole damn point. TSZYU WAS NOT GREAT AT 36.

Listen to yourself. You conveniently leave out the fact that Hatton was beating Tszyu from pillar-to-post. You are dangerously saying that the fresh Tszyu in the first round was EXACTLY the same as the psychologically and physically battered Tszyu in the last round.

Grasping at straws here, aren't we? Well, you chose that for yourself when you decided to be a Floyd nuthugger. Good luck chasing white elephants.

[ThaHorseman]

The point is that Tszyu was more formidable than Oscar at that time. That's the point. Tszyu had just come off an unbelievable destruction of Mitchell. Oscar didn't come off ****.

Oscar didn't come off ****? Except the unbelievable destruction of Mayorga. The point actually is that Oscar at 154 (coming off that unbelievable Mayorga KO) is tougher for a boxer to beat than 140 pound Kostya (coming off an unbelievable Mitchell KO). Two divisions higher and still fighting (and not quiting on his stool).

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I'll ask you in this thread too, so I know you don't miss it.

Didn't he "let himself be stripped" to move up and fight Pernell Whitaker for the WW title? The same Pernell Whitaker who is considered by many to be among the top fighters in the past 20 years?

Hell, ATG. Top 20 All time.

A Pernell Whitaker who, in his day, would have boxed Kostya Tszyu up like a Christmas present.

[ThaHorseman]

Listen to yourself. You conveniently leave out the fact that Hatton was beating Tszyu from pillar-to-post. You are dangerously saying that the fresh Tszyu in the first round was EXACTLY the same as the psychologically and physically battered Tszyu in the last round.

Grasping at straws here, aren't we? Well, you chose that for yourself when you decided to be a Floyd nuthugger. Good luck chasing white elephants.

Again, you seem to have distorted reality. The Hatton-Tszyu fight was close. Kostya simply gave up.

[Wiley Hyena]

I'll ask you in this thread too, so I know you don't miss it.

Didn't he "let himself be stripped" to move up and fight Pernell Whitaker for the WW title? The same Pernell Whitaker who is considered by many to be among the top fighters in the past 20 years?

If he didn't let himself be stripped, then what do you call it? Hell, if were Oscar I would have definitely chosen to fight an aging Whitaker, rather than a prime Tszyu. My god. Oscar fights Whitaker and may lose a decision if he's not prepared. Oscar fights Tszyu and could very well have been knocked the **** out!

[ThaHorseman]

Hell, ATG. Top 20 All time.

A Pernell Whitaker who, in his day, would have boxed Kostya Tszyu up like a Christmas present.

You know it, I know it and, judging by his obvious avoidance of the quesiton, Wiley knows it too.

[ThaHorseman]

If he didn't let himself be stripped, then what do you call it? Hell, if were Oscar I would have definitely chosen to fight an aging Whitaker, rather than a prime Tszyu. My god. Oscar fights Whitaker and may lose a decision if he's not prepared. Oscar fights Tszyu and could very well have been knocked the **** out!

You seem to be putting Tszyu up on this pedestal. A pedastal that he would probably have quit on if he was in a tough fight.

[joepal]

I'm a VERY unbiased poster. This ALSO isn't about Hatton or Mayweather. It's about a fictional fighter. Who fights at 140... Who would he rather be proud of beating. I said a 34 year old 154 pound Oscar De La Hoya, compared to a slightly faded 36 year old 140 pound Kostya Tszyu.. It's pretty simple I thought. As to how what I post matters. It lets you know the fighters you're choosing between.

Here is the threadstarter's exact words in describing his question:

I wanted to get the board's opinion on an often-debated topic.

Wiley Hyena is a big Kostya Tszyu fan. He said this today:

"IMO Hatton's win over Tszyu is a greater accomplishment than any single fight on Floyd's resume."


I will respect that is HIS opinion.

But I wanted to ask the board for their HONEST opinions, and ask you to vote above.

Do you agree with Wiley? Yes or No.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Here is the threadstarter's exact words in describing his question:

I wanted to get the board's opinion on an often-debated topic.

Wiley Hyena is a big Kostya Tszyu fan. He said this today:

"IMO Hatton's win over Tszyu is a greater accomplishment than any single fight on Floyd's resume."


I will respect that is HIS opinion.

But I wanted to ask the board for their HONEST opinions, and ask you to vote above.

Do you agree with Wiley? Yes or No.

That's where he got the idea or premise of the question, not what I was lead to believe the question was TRULY based on.

[joepal]

Again, you seem to have distorted reality. The Hatton-Tszyu fight was close. Kostya simply gave up.

Way to go to detract from that victory of Hatton. So Hatton did nothing, KT just said to hell with it.

Idjit.