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This Floydboys/ vs Floyd haters war is like the ***********/Israeli conflict. Every time we have some relative peace for a while some damn *********(Dios) or Israeli soldier(joepal) says some crazy **** just to get people riled up and keep the conflict moving.Comment
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This is getting boring, 16 pages of two idiots trying to convince the world that elephants fly, by making up stuff or creating illogical links between events.
The sad thing is I was even trying to argue with them, instead of ignoring them. I am done now, I already pointed out lies and contradiction (page 6 or so), and got the usual insulting one liners. Those dont even need to be answered.Comment
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sonofsis quote with my responses thereto:
@ Wiley.. I'm not here to flex any particular skills that I may have innately acquired from birth, but only to demonstrate that you're a fool for the most part and really need to come back down to earth..
A brief and simple analysis of what I've been able to thus far observe and infer from this exchange, including the claims made and the implications..
* You initiated a debate by suggesting that somehow Floyd Mayweather jr. dodged Kosta Tszyu. To support this assertion, you present evidence in the form of chronology and loose connections, suggesting that Floyd had ample time to address Tszyu, but chose to not do so and instead chase a lesser opponent in Gatti
I didn't initiate the debate. I responded to certain Mayweatherites who were stating that Tszyu ran from Floyd.
* Problems with this theory can be summed as such
Since the burden of proof is on the person making the claim, sufficient evidence to substantiate it was requested from you. Forms of evidence to expect would be direct quotations, articles, or commentary/expert opinion of someone who has at least noticed the same thing.
I did this. But there is much MUCH more to choose from. I invite you to google Tszyu and do some research.
Indirect evidence may consist of Floyd never calling out Tszyu, thus, him obviously not wanting to fight him
Floyd talked alot (even called out Winky if you can believe that!), but never walked at all. No serious discussions of a Tszyu fight were ever had by the Floyd camp.
No such evidence was ever provided
How can you prove a negative? All you can do is note the absence of any evidence showing Floyd went after Tszyu. On the other hand, if you have evidence to the contrary, please produce it.
* On the opposing side, evidence was presented to refute your position, since it is your claim that is under scrutiny which needs to be verified, but at the end of the day, since it is your claim, all one needs to do is pick holes in your argument
No evidence has been presented that refutes my case. Statements made by Floyd AFTER THE FACT are inconsequential bull****. But, again if you have any timely statements, please produce it so the boxing world may see it. Your blind conclusions are not persuasive.
* Firstly, you began this campaign by stating that Mayweather moved up from light weight, claiming to have been the greatest WW of all time, even though at that time he'd never stepped foot in welter weight sneakers. This inconsistency shows from the start that your case was flimsy and scatter-brained
I never stated this in my thread starter. But I have in the past stated that Floyd claimed to be the greatest Jr. WW when he was fighting at 140.
* Next, you claimed that Floyd never called out Tszyu, yet you've demonstrated nothing indicating that Tszyu called out Mayweather and that Mayweather turned him down, which would officially be considered 'ducking" by many people.
Wrong again. Either you don't understand what I wrote or you're intentionally misleading. Either way, you are mistaken. Re-read my thread starter for details.
* Finally, in addition, you have been showed definitive proof that Mayweather indeed called out Tszyu only after his first fight at JWW.
This is a blatant lie. Please show me that "definitive proof" that Floyd called Tszyu out after his fight with Corley (May 2004). Show us this. Even if it's nothing but rank cheap talk, show it to us.
Therefore, the meat of your argument has been effectively destroyed.. The fact that it was in January 2005 does nothing whatsoever to support your claim that he never called out Tszyu, and it definitely refutes your position that he was consciously ducking him. You are wrong. The article you are referring to specifically says Floyd's first order of business was with Gatti. Cheap talk, no walk.Not to mention that there is no evidence that the Hatton/Tszyu bout was scheduled at that time and it most likely wasn't. When did they sign then? And, really what does it matter? Floyd signed to fight Gatti, never making a move towards Tszyu. That was the point of my post.In order to make sense, you'd have to "move the goal post" and change your premise to Floyd only ducked Tszyu in 2004. I put forth evidence that he skipped a potential Tszyu fight. What more is necessary to show that he never intended to fight Tszyu (unless maybe he was 38 years old...maybe)?Which is a desperate argument that I believe rightfully wouldn't and shouldn't be entertained by anyone. You lost Wiley, I promise you that..
The viewers will judge that. All I know is that YOU haven't refuted anything by this post.
Summary:
You made a claim, provided no evidence for it, evidence was provided against it, and now you resort to whining about people being mean to you after you've been constantly spreading these lies and defaming pro athletes. Your time is up Wiley.. Just responding by fighting fire with fire. I will counter intentional falsehoods. And you and your gang alleging that the great Tszyu ran from Floyd was an intentional falsehood. When in fact, it was the other way around, as I have now shown.Comment
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