Mayweather and the 5 Bums

**sonofisis** · 10-16-2007, 12:53 AM

You sir, need a job and some *****.. Nuff said..

**El Dominicano** · 10-16-2007, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

After seeing the incredible allegations of a few Mayweatherites here alleging that great Jr. Welter Weight Champ Kostya Tszyu ran from Floyd Mayweather, Jr., I was inspired to set the record straight. My findings:

After a truly impressive campaign at 130, Floyd moved to 135 in 2002. The problem began here and it's name was Jose Luis Castillo. After losing to Castillo on everybody's card but the judges' in the first fight, Mayweather used his defensive skills to salvage his reputation in the rematch. After that scare, Mayweather then proceeded to call on the hapless Lovemore N'dou. N'dou unexpectedly proved a stiff test, but Floyd passed it. Bum number one was conquered. Who would the self proclaimed greatest fight next? We were immediately deflated. Sosa was served up like a cold fish on April 19, 2003.

Fully in stride now, Mayweather moved up to Jr. Welter (140), where hall of famer Kostya Tszyu reigned supreme. Instead of calling on Tszyu, Floyd proceeded to feed on a steady diet of bums. On May 22, 2004, it was Demarcus Corley. On January 22, 2005, it was Henry Bruseles. And, on June 25, 2005, Floyd dismantled the last of the 5 bums, the washed up warrior, Arturo Gatti. 5 bums and no Tszyu.

Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. He was top ten p4p in all those years. He began that period of time as the Jr. Welter Weight unified undisputed champion (the first to do it in 30 years). During the mid portion of that period he held two titles, and finally lost the IBF title to Ricky Hatton in June 2005. He retired after that fight at age 36. During this period, there were no serious inquiries from the Floyd camp about a fight against Tszyu. Cheap talk, no walk.

After initially posting my opinion that it was Floyd that ran, not Tszyu, I became the subject of a veritable deluge of outrage, criticism, and lewd (but somewhat entertaining) invective by certain Mayweatherites on this site. I want to thank each and every foul mouthed one of you. You inspired me to PROVE my opinion with evidence, evidence of which you said was non-existent. Mr. Dios Dominicanos and his gang maintain that Tszyu never, I repeat NEVER, made one single statement indicating his desire to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. and thus somehow "ran" from Floyd.

Exhibit #1: KOSTYA TSZYU DENIES DEAL TO FIGHT HATTON

According to a recent report by GRANTLEE KIEZA, Kostya Tszyu has again confirmed there is no deal to fight hard-hitting Englishman Ricky Hatton for $5million. Two weeks ago Tszyu told The Daily Telegraph exclusively that he wasn't fighting Hatton on March 5 in Manchester as the British press had announced and was forced to repeat his position yesterday after reports out of England saying a deal had been made.

Before heading off to his native Russia to collect a major award from President Vladimir *****, Tszyu said yesterday: "I am not fighting Ricky Hatton in Manchester anytime soon.

"I can't believe Hatton's promoter [Frank Warren] is still saying I am fighting him because there has been no deal made.

"Right now I am having a holiday for a few weeks and just enjoying time with my wife and kids. When it is time to fight again we will see who is on offer. But I promised my family I would not be training over Christmas so I will certainly not be fighting again by March."

When told that Warren said he had a verbal agreement with Tszyu's American-based promoter Vlad Warton, Tszyu smiled and said: "I decide who I fight, no one else."

Tszyu said he was far more interested in an offer of $10.5 million from American promoter Murad Muhammad to fight WBC champion Arturo Gatti and former world junior-lightweight and lightweight champion Floyd Mayweather.

"I want to fight them both," Tszyu said. "They mean a lot more on the world scene than Ricky Hatton."

12-14-2004

Exhibit #2: KOSTYA TSZYU INTERVIEW

Scoop: Comment on fighting Floyd Mayweather...

Kostya Tszyu: "It would be a great fight. I fought his uncle (Roger-W 12 in '95 in Newcastle, Australia) who's training him now. It would be good to fight him too. I remember after Olympic Games ('96) we were in same room as Bob Arum, he just started his career. I already was world champion. It would be a good, good matchup. If the short time will be able to produce this match, it will be a great fight."

October 25, 2004

ARGUMENT:
Just as I always said, Tszyu was always open to any top contender at 140, ESPECIALLY Floyd. Floyd simply did not want any piece of Tszyu. Who knows, maybe uncle Roger didn't like the idea?

You will note that Tszyu destroyed Sharmba Mitchell (4 knockdowns and KO in the 3rd) on November 6, 2004. Tszyu remained unsigned and available to take a fight with Floyd for roughly two months after that fight. Mayweather didn't sign to fight Gatti until after January 30, 2005.

Unfortunately for boxing, DURING THIS TIME PERIOD Floyd never muttered a word. Instead of going after one of the greatest 140 champions of modern times, Floyd signed to fight the fifth installment in our gallery of bums, Arturo Gatti. There was no mention of Tszyu. There were no inquiries about getting the fight. There was nothing but a resounding wall of silence. Result? Tszyu signed to fight Ricky Hatton, and the rest is history.

This is evidence. Floyd can talk it up all he wants AFTER the fact. It doesn't matter. The self proclaimed "greatest of all time" skipped out on a real fight of historical proportions against the man.

I present to you, "The Theory of the 5 Bums."

Kostya Tszyu is great fighter and I respect him but a PBF he would have never beat. (SADLY) Zab was F'ing him up Tszyu untill he got KTFO and as we all know PBF ain't no damn ZAB. I'll hit u off with the outcome PBF U.D Over Tszyu. With Tszyu Winning 3-4 Rounds.

**Wiley Hyena** · 10-16-2007, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by El Dominicano

Kostya Tszyu is great fighter and I respect him but a PBF he would have never beat. (SADLY) Zab was F'ing him up Tszyu untill he got KTFO and as we all know PBF ain't no damn ZAB. I'll hit u off with the outcome PBF U.D Over Tszyu. With Tszyu Winning 3-4 Rounds.

Tszyu blows PBF out with an early KO, like he did Judah and Mitchell. IMO

**El Dominicano** · 10-16-2007, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

Tszyu blows PBF out with an early KO, like he did Judah and Mitchell. IMO

If u are serious abut what you've just said...Then I must call you ******. A 140 pounder doing something a 165 Pounder couldn't do.

**sonofisis** · 10-16-2007, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

Tszyu blows PBF out with an early KO, like he did Judah and Mitchell. IMO

Your opinion is among the most worthless on this site, not to mention among the most biased and irrational that I've ever seen in my life. You should be banned just to save us the trouble of your daily antics.

**Wiley Hyena** · 10-16-2007, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by sonofisis

Your opinion is among the most worthless on this site, not to mention among the most biased and irrational that I've ever seen in my life. You should be banned just to save us the trouble of your daily antics.

Yeah....right. You little twit. You never have anything to say of substance. If you can't take the heat, get the hell out of the kitchen.

How does it feel to be owned?

**THe TRiNiTY** · 10-16-2007, 01:31 AM

Honestly, NO WAY IN HELL Mayweather gets knocked out in the first 3 rounds of almost any fight, with anyone. It's just not even realistic, with the style Mayweather brings to the game. MAYBE, he'd lose to Kostya, I doubt it, but he doesn't get knocked out, and if he does, it's not early. Why you assume a 140 pounder would just crush a 140-147 pounder, is beyond me, really. Kostya is strong, but not THAT strong. He's not as fast as Mayweather. Stylistically, Kostya set up his punches, part of the reason Hatton beat him. He gave him no chance to set up for a shot. Mayweather, would do the same, but in a different way. He's elusive, and moves around a lot, pot shotting his way to victory, over the oncoming fighter, who isn't fast enough to catch him. When he DOES get on the ropes every now and again with Kostya, he'd use his shoulders, and pretty much stop anything serious from happening. I just see that happening. I could be wrong. But, I seriously doubt it.

**Wiley Hyena** · 10-16-2007, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by C-Drone

Honestly, NO WAY IN HELL Mayweather gets knocked out in the first 3 rounds of almost any fight, with anyone. It's just not even realistic, with the style Mayweather brings to the game. MAYBE, he'd lose to Kostya, I doubt it, but he doesn't get knocked out, and if he does, it's not early. Why you assume a 140 pounder would just crush a 140-147 pounder, is beyond me, really. Kostya is strong, but not THAT strong. He's not as fast as Mayweather. Stylistically, Kostya set up his punches, part of the reason Hatton beat him. He gave him no chance to set up for a shot. Mayweather, would do the same, but in a different way. He's elusive, and moves around a lot, pot shotting his way to victory, over the oncoming fighter, who isn't fast enough to catch him. When he DOES get on the ropes every now and again with Kostya, he'd use his shoulders, and pretty much stop anything serious from happening. I just see that happening. I could be wrong. But, I seriously doubt it.

I hear what you're saying, but Hatton is a swarmer. Kostya had problems with those types. On the other hand, he was very proficient at taking out the fast, flashy boxing types...like Judah and like Floyd IMO. I'm just basing my opinion on past performances and Tszyu's great power.

**eazy_mas** · 10-16-2007, 01:48 AM

let talk about the facts right now.

Everyweight class Mayweather goes for the WBC-title, he collects them. Look at his record carefully:

SFW-Genaro Hernandez
LW- Castillo
jr WW- Gatti
WW- Baldomir
Super WW- Oscar Dela Hayo

all of this guy where holding the WBC belt before Mayweather beaten them.

Another thing about facts most writers and even people in boxingscenes will agree that Mayweather is p4p boxer for pretty much a long time. So if you think not and disagree he is at least the 2nd p4p fight.

It is just an insult to the sport say Mayweather is overrated or ducked anyone. It means that the whole boxers he have beaten including Castillo and Oscar are overrated which means boxing is an overrated sport.

and Mayweather isnt unbeaten for nothing you know that.

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