Wow! are yall convinced now?

[Azteca]

Juan is very susceptible to the jab. He basically doesn't have (or maybe just doens't use) his own and a guy like Paulie would pop him with it all night long. Juan's footspeed is also very bad, I don't get why Julio didn't take advantage of that as he was obviously the much better boxer. Anyway, Paulie wouldn't be ****** to stand there and let Juan flurry on him. Paulie would UD him fairly easily.

What fight wer you watching? He popped the jab plenty of times. Round 7 he exclusively used it. Showed some nice counterpunching skills also when Julio was backing him up.

And against Frietas he really used a jab when Frietas was on his bike.

And Juan's footspeed isn't bad either.

I dont know where you're getting these idea's from. They're really offbase.

[shawn_]

Maybe you didnt watch the fight just now? Come on. Have you not seen Julio fight before? He can punch, he can get KO's and he did nothing but stay in the trenches with Juan...lost every round.

Julio creates power with leverage, he loses his power when he fights up close. The type of fighter that will beat Juan will be a Ricky Hatton type fighter. Willing to go to war with Juan, and can punch twice as hard.

I'm not taking anything away from Juan, he is a great fighter, and his defense is alot better than he gets credit for, but he still can't punch, and when you are a pressure fighter, you need to be able to punch.

The name of the game is giving more than you are getting, and that is really difficult when you are feather fisted like Juan. He would probably do better at a lower weight where he might have a little bit more power, because with power, he would be a wrecking machine.

[slicksouthpaw16]

but pacquaio is coming up from featherweight or smaller. diaz's power would be more effective to pacquaio because he is coming up and facing a natrual lightweight. when you move up in weight, you lose the advantages you at at the smaller weight class. pacquiao probably has a size and strenght advantage over all of the super featherweights. but if he moves up, he is facing fighters that are bigger and stronger than he is so he wont be as dominant. i wouldnt be suprised if diaz actually stopped pacquaio.

[MightyMikeA]

What fight wer you watching? He popped the jab plenty of times. Round 7 he exclusively used it. Showed some nice counterpunching skills also when Julio was backing him up.

And against Frietas he really used a jab when Frietas was on his bike.

And Juan's footspeed isn't bad either.

I dont know where you're getting these idea's from. They're really offbase.

What fight was I watching, what fight were you watching brutha?? Out of 774 punches 606 were POWER PUNCHES. Power punches are Juan's game man, he did use the jab in the later rounds somewhat, but he's no jabber man, let's be real here. And his footspeed sucks, Julio was running circles around him when he actually chose to box. Whatever, it was a great performance, but let's not make a god out of this guy. He's a swarmer with great stamina and punch volume. He overwhelms his opponents, but he doesn't destroy them.

[Azteca]

Julio creates power with leverage, he loses his power when he fights up close. The type of fighter that will beat Juan will be a Ricky Hatton type fighter. Willing to go to war with Juan, and can punch twice as hard.

I'm not taking anything away from Juan, he is a great fighter, and his defense is alot better than he gets credit for, but he still can't punch, and when you are a pressure fighter, you need to be able to punch.

The name of the game is giving more than you are getting, and that is really difficult when you are feather fisted like Juan. He would probably do better at a lower weight where he might have a little bit more power, because with power, he would be a wrecking machine.

I agree. To beat Juan you have to be quick and you have to have power. You have to back him up and punch with him. You cant beat him by sticking and moving because Juan is too active. And it's not like Juan is one-dimensional either...so you cant just have a simple gameplan like sticking and moving and expect it to work.

I believe Hatton would have his way with Juan...but I wont even talk about that fight because it is at least a few years off. Arum can milk Juan for years at 135 anyways.

[Azteca]

What fight was I watching, what fight were you watching brutha?? Out of 774 punches 606 were POWER PUNCHES. Power punches are Juan's game man, he did use the jab in the later rounds somewhat, but he's no jabber man, let's be real here. And his footspeed sucks, Julio was running circles around him when he actually chose to box. Whatever, it was a great performance, but let's not make a god out of this guy. He's a swarmer with great stamina and punch volume. He overwhelms his opponents, but he doesn't destroy them.

774 mins 606. That still leaves 170 jabs genius. And that's for a pressure fighter.

And his footspeed doesn't suck either. That's just you making **** up to try and sound educated. Educate yourself about the sport.

Let's bet on Kessler - Zag too, champ.

[ReadyUp]

But he can't punch. He is a good fighter, but in with a fighter that will go in the trenches with him, and can punch, he will lose. I like him though, he is fun and exciting and has a good story, but he cant punch.

Swarmers need to be able to punch, but he cant. He reminds me of Joe Frazier a bit with his style, but he cant punch.

I was thinking the same...of course that's also why I've picked Juan Diaz to lose more than a couple times (especially the Popo fight), but he's making a believer out of me.

[Dirt E Gomez]

You don't have to pack a huge punch if you throw as many punches as Diaz does. He throws a hard enough punch to show when he's decisevly landing and to keep his opponents from getting careless, while impressing judges in doing so. Deep in fights his punches take even more effect. He doesn't have to swing for the fences for the fight to be stopped.

[shawn_]

I bet on Juan Diaz to win this fight, because swarmer > boxer.

[Azteca]

I was thinking the same...of course that's also why I've picked Juan Diaz to lose more than a couple times (especially the Popo fight), but he's making a believer out of me.

Frietas had a good gameplan but it didn't work because he was unnatural fighting off the backfoot. You saw this even early in his career when he was outboxing Corrales for 8 rounds, then Corrales finally caught up to him.