Mayweather's plan at 140

[Wiley Hyena]

You need a raise, or at least an employee of the month award.

All ****. You guys want facts, and he gives you articles of Floyd doing what he does best...talk.

Fact: In 2002,2003,2004, and 2005 Kostya Tszyu was jr ww champion.
Fact: Tszyu was the first man in 30 years to unify all the belts at 140.
Fact: Tszyu is HOF, and was the dominant man in 140 for 10 years before finally retiring off the Hatton fight in 2005.

Fact: Floyd arrived at 140 in 2004, fought a couple of bums, and quickly moved up and out of 140.
Fact: Floyd then said he wanted Tszyu the whole time, but there were problems with the networks, etc....
Fact: After Tszyu lost to Hatton, Floyd said Tszyu was in the plan, but since Tszyu lost, the point is moot now.

Fact: Floyd never fought for the championship belts owned by Tszyu. He talked ****, but never tried to seriously make that fight happen.

Floyd dodged Tszyu. Tszyu never moved from 140. Floyd moved from division to division fighting bums and claiming he was the best, but never fought the man at 140. That man was Tszyu.

Those are the facts. You can spin em, you can **** on em, but you cannot hide from them. There they are for all the world to see.

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All ****. You guys want facts, and he gives you articles of Floyd doing what he does best...talk.

Fact: In 2002,2003,2004, and 2005 Kostya Tszyu was jr ww champion.

Fact: Tszyu was the first man in 30 years to unify all the belts at 140.
Fact: Tszyu is HOF, and was the dominant man in 140 for 10 years before finally retiring off the Hatton fight in 2005.

Fact: Floyd arrived at 140 in 2004, fought a couple of bums, and quickly moved up and out of 140.
Fact: Floyd then said he wanted Tszyu the whole time, but there were problems with the networks, etc....
Fact: After Tszyu lost to Hatton, Floyd said Tszyu was in the plan, but since Tszyu lost, the point is moot now.

Fact: Floyd never fought for the championship belts owned by Tszyu. He talked ****, but never tried to seriously make that fight happen.

Floyd dodged Tszyu. Tszyu never moved from 140. Floyd moved from division to division fighting bums and claiming he was the best, but never fought the man at 140. That man was Tszyu.

Those are the facts. You can spin em, you can **** on em, but you cannot hide from them. There they are for all the world to see.

HAHAHA you had to cut your list of "FACTS" a lot since last time, didnt you? You took away the bull**** and are now left with the "IRRELEVANT" ones.

Mayweather moved up to 135 in April 2002 and 140 in May 2004.


Starting from 2004:

Zoo was inactive from January 2003 to Nonvember 2004.

In November 2004 Zoo HAD to face Mitchell.

In January 2005 Mayweather fights Bruseles, at the same time Zoo signs to fight Hatton.

In March 2005 Mayweather signs to fight Gatti.

The rest is Zoo losing, and retiring.

Now where can you infer that any ducking was going on? Please explain.

What the **** does it mean that Zoo was undisputed and an excellent fighter? What the **** does it mean that he unified? How does that make ANYONE (not just PBF) duck him?

You go on mentioning the Championship beltS Zoo held... Mayweather could not ever fight for those, because the last time Zoo defended them was in January 2003, when Mayweather was still fighting at 135. When Zoo came back in 2004 he had only the IBF belt and was going to be stripped if he did not fight Mitchell.

FINALLY
How can you ever make a point of Floyd ducking Zoo, when Floyd said he wanted Zoo and Zoo said he did not want to fight Floyd?

PS: not only you dont understand the above, you dont even understand boxing, becase you think Zoo would have been a problem for Mayweather stylewise... It's gonna be a Castillo, Hatton, Cotto type of fighter who gives him trouble. NOT a stand up boxer, who's pretty slow on his feet and whose only chance is land the right hand. Now, if you knew anything, shoulder rolling the way Mayweather does, works great against fighters who are slower than you, when they throw a right hand. It works (obviously) well with slower fighters because you can rely on always taking away the shot or most of its power. It works great against right hand leads because unlike parrying, ducking or slipping under, it creates a opening by putting your opponent more off balance than any of the above giving you his head ready for you to hit.

[Vladimir303]

HAHAHA you had to cut your list of "FACTS" a lot since last time, didnt you? You took away the bull**** and are now left with the "IRRELEVANT" ones.

Mayweather moved up to 135 in April 2002 and 140 in May 2004.


Starting from 2004:

Zoo was inactive from January 2003 to Nonvember 2004.

In November 2004 Zoo HAD to face Mitchell.

In January 2005 Mayweather fights Bruseles, at the same time Zoo signs to fight Hatton.

In March 2005 Mayweather signs to fight Gatti.

The rest is Zoo losing, and retiring.

Now where can you infer that any ducking was going on? Please explain.

What the **** does it mean that Zoo was undisputed and an excellent fighter? What the **** does it mean that he unified? How does that make ANYONE (not just PBF) duck him?

You go on mentioning the Championship beltS Zoo held... Mayweather could not ever fight for those, because the last time Zoo defended them was in January 2003, when Mayweather was still fighting at 135. When Zoo came back in 2004 he had only the IBF belt and was going to be stripped if he did not fight Mitchell.

FINALLY
How can you ever make a point of Floyd ducking Zoo, when Floyd said he wanted Zoo and Zoo said he did not want to fight Floyd?

PS: not only you dont understand the above, you dont even understand boxing, becase you think Zoo would have been a problem for Mayweather stylewise... It's gonna be a Castillo, Hatton, Cotto type of fighter who gives him trouble. NOT a stand up boxer, who's pretty slow on his feet and whose only chance is land the right hand. Now, if you knew anything, shoulder rolling the way Mayweather does, works great against fighters who are slower than you, when they throw a right hand. It works (obviously) well with slower fighters because you can rely on always taking away the shot or most of its power. It works great against right hand leads because unlike parrying, ducking or slipping under, it creates a opening by putting your opponent more off balance than any of the above giving you his head ready for you to hit.

Wiley Hyena just got by Wmute.

Damn, the floyd haters are taking a beating on this thread today.

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LOL. Thread starter hangs from the balls of Floyd. How sad.

[Wiley Hyena]

HAHAHA you had to cut your list of "FACTS" a lot since last time, didnt you? You took away the bull**** and are now left with the "IRRELEVANT" ones.

Mayweather moved up to 135 in April 2002 and 140 in May 2004.


Starting from 2004:

Zoo was inactive from January 2003 to Nonvember 2004.

In November 2004 Zoo HAD to face Mitchell.

In January 2005 Mayweather fights Bruseles, at the same time Zoo signs to fight Hatton.

In March 2005 Mayweather signs to fight Gatti.

The rest is Zoo losing, and retiring.

Now where can you infer that any ducking was going on? Please explain.

What the **** does it mean that Zoo was undisputed and an excellent fighter? What the **** does it mean that he unified? How does that make ANYONE (not just PBF) duck him?

You go on mentioning the Championship beltS Zoo held... Mayweather could not ever fight for those, because the last time Zoo defended them was in January 2003, when Mayweather was still fighting at 135. When Zoo came back in 2004 he had only the IBF belt and was going to be stripped if he did not fight Mitchell.

FINALLY
How can you ever make a point of Floyd ducking Zoo, when Floyd said he wanted Zoo and Zoo said he did not want to fight Floyd?

PS: not only you dont understand the above, you dont even understand boxing, becase you think Zoo would have been a problem for Mayweather stylewise... It's gonna be a Castillo, Hatton, Cotto type of fighter who gives him trouble. NOT a stand up boxer, who's pretty slow on his feet and whose only chance is land the right hand. Now, if you knew anything, shoulder rolling the way Mayweather does, works great against fighters who are slower than you, when they throw a right hand. It works (obviously) well with slower fighters because you can rely on always taking away the shot or most of its power. It works great against right hand leads because unlike parrying, ducking or slipping under, it creates a opening by putting your opponent more off balance than any of the above giving you his head ready for you to hit.

No more details necessary. No excuses sufficient. Floyd could've had Tszyu in 2003 if he wanted. You Mayweatherites just refuse to see the facts that are right before your eyes. Tszyu never moved. He held all the belts and lost the championship to Hatton in 2005. Mayweather moved to 140, fought a couple of bums there and quickly moved up, rather than fight Tszyu.

It's as simple as that. The rest is excuse after excuse after excuse. But hey, you don't have to believe me. Refer to Larry Merchant who spoke publicly about this exact issue. You see I'm not the only person in the world to have seen the truth.

The irritation comes from Floyd after he skipped through 140 and tried to imply that the champ ran from him! lol

Oh..and Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. So much for the "inactive" ****. He was top ten p4p in all those years by the way.

Oh..and Tszyu never said "he didn't want Floyd" either. You're making **** up to support a lost cause now.

Son, I was there. I'm not going back three years and revising history to fit my needs, like you are. Floyd dodged Tszyu just as clearly as the sun shines. Personally, I don't give a **** what you believe about this, but I will state the truth when morons get on here and point to Tszyu as something that is positive for Mayweather. Tszyu is the weakest part of Floyd's armour and you would be best served by moving on to other issues that you can win.

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No more details necessary. No excuses sufficient. 1. Floyd could've had Tszyu in 2003 if he wanted. You Mayweatherites just refuse to see the facts that are right before your eyes. Tszyu never moved. 2. He held all the belts and lost the championship to Hatton in 2005. Mayweather moved to 140, fought a couple of bums there and quickly moved up, rather than fight Tszyu.

It's as simple as that. The rest is excuse after excuse after excuse. But hey, you don't have to believe me. Refer to Larry Merchant who spoke publicly about this exact issue. You see I'm not the only person in the world to have seen the truth.

The irritation comes from Floyd after he skipped through 140 and tried to imply that the champ ran from him! lol

you are starting to be irritating. Start reading and see if you are remotely able to come up with reasonable answers, instead of repeating "I am right. you are wrong

1) BULL****

Zoo fought once in 2003, in JANUARY. He was injured and OFF for 22TWENTYTWO22 months, until the end of 2004. Do you understand that was NOT fighting in 2003? is that within reach of your intellect?

Mayweather was a LIGHTWEIGHT in 2003.

2) BULL****

he last time he fought for all belts was in January 2003, when he came back in 2004 he was only the IBF champion, and he would have been stripped of that one too if the didnt fight Mitchell.

Half of your posts are insults and excuses about others making excuses. Can you do better than that?

[Vladimir303]

No more details necessary. No excuses sufficient. Floyd could've had Tszyu in 2003 if he wanted. You Mayweatherites just refuse to see the facts that are right before your eyes. Tszyu never moved. He held all the belts and lost the championship to Hatton in 2005. Mayweather moved to 140, fought a couple of bums there and quickly moved up, rather than fight Tszyu.

It's as simple as that. The rest is excuse after excuse after excuse. But hey, you don't have to believe me. Refer to Larry Merchant who spoke publicly about this exact issue. You see I'm not the only person in the world to have seen the truth.

The irritation comes from Floyd after he skipped through 140 and tried to imply that the champ ran from him! lol

Oh..and Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. So much for the "inactive" ****. He was top ten p4p in all those years by the way.

Oh..and Tszyu never said "he didn't want Floyd" either. You're making **** up to support a lost cause now.

Son, I was there. I'm not going back three years and revising history to fit my needs, like you are. Floyd dodged Tszyu just as clearly as the sun shines. Personally, I don't give a **** what you believe about this, but I will state the truth when morons get on here and point to Tszyu as something that is positive for Mayweather. Tszyu is the weakest part of Floyd's armour and you would be best served by moving on to other issues that you can win.

Wiley, there were several articles being posted by Dios that show how Kostya Tszyu wasn't interested in fighting floyd and floyd was interested in fighting him. By the time Floyd moved up to 140, Tszyu fought Mitchell and lost to Hatton and went on Australian danding with the stars.

Hatton the champ didn't want any part of him so floyd moved up to fight Judah for the Unisputed welterweight championship and Judah lost too.

Facts.......give it up already and stop hating so much......it's not good for your health.

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No more details necessary. No excuses sufficient. Floyd could've had Tszyu in 2003 if he wanted. You Mayweatherites just refuse to see the facts that are right before your eyes. Tszyu never moved. He held all the belts and lost the championship to Hatton in 2005. Mayweather moved to 140, fought a couple of bums there and quickly moved up, rather than fight Tszyu.

It's as simple as that. The rest is excuse after excuse after excuse. But hey, you don't have to believe me. Refer to Larry Merchant who spoke publicly about this exact issue. You see I'm not the only person in the world to have seen the truth.

The irritation comes from Floyd after he skipped through 140 and tried to imply that the champ ran from him! lol

Oh..and Tszyu fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. So much for the "inactive" ****. He was top ten p4p in all those years by the way.

Oh..and Tszyu never said "he didn't want Floyd" either. You're making **** up to support a lost cause now.

Son, I was there. I'm not going back three years and revising history to fit my needs, like you are. Floyd dodged Tszyu just as clearly as the sun shines. Personally, I don't give a **** what you believe about this, but I will state the truth when morons get on here and point to Tszyu as something that is positive for Mayweather. Tszyu is the weakest part of Floyd's armour and you would be best served by moving on to other issues that you can win.

You are the one making **** up, which makes me doubt you were there (or anywhere).

Everyone who followed boxing at the time knows very well that the undisputed 140 champion Zoo was out injured and his belts were pretty much auctioned off to the Harrises and Gattis of this world. In his 22 months (TWENTYTWO, cos you dont seem to get it) layoff he was p4p ranked because his (rare) outings were excellent.

It seems that no one else but you is trying to discuss this, so maybe you are the one who needs to "move on to other issues that you can win".

Given your rethorical skills, I will give you an easy assignment: convince me that 1+1=2.

[Wiley Hyena]

you are starting to be irritating. Start reading and see if you are remotely able to come up with reasonable answers, instead of repeating "I am right. you are wrong

1) BULL****

Zoo fought once in 2003, in JANUARY. He was injured and OFF for 22TWENTYTWO22 months, until the end of 2004. Do you understand that was NOT fighting in 2003? is that within reach of your intellect?

Mayweather was a LIGHTWEIGHT in 2003.

2) BULL****

he last time he fought for all belts was in January 2003, when he came back in 2004 he was only the IBF champion, and he would have been stripped of that one too if the didnt fight Mitchell.

Half of your posts are insults and excuses about others making excuses. Can you do better than that?

It means exactly what I stated: he fought in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005.

I don't have to do any better than what is necessary. I've done that. Floyd skipped through 140 in 2004 without fighting Tszyu. He fought a couple of bums instead, and then moved up saying the champ ran from him. lol What else needs be said? And so the **** what..."Mayweather was a lightweight in 2003." What does that prove? He was talking up a fight with Tszyu then as well. That's when Tszyu responded, "he's too small." Now that's a refusal in boxing if I've ever seen one. lol

****, right now on the net is an article where Tszyu, 38 years old and retired, says a fight with Mayweather would be great. Even now he would fight Floyd. Even now. And you have the ******ity to insinuate that he would not fight Floyd in his prime? That's just plain laughable.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

No more details necessary. No excuses sufficient. Floyd could've had Tszyu in 2003 if he wanted. You Mayweatherites just refuse to see the facts that are right before your eyes. Tszyu never moved. He held all the belts and lost the championship to Hatton in 2005. Mayweather moved to 140, fought a couple of bums there and quickly moved up, rather than fight Tszyu.
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Wiley,

You have lost this argument. Hang it up, and move on.

Nobody believes you. Much evidence has been posted that exposed your lies.

Leave it alone, man... and move on.