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  • tredh
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    #21
    Originally posted by McKay
    Floyd's wins are more often than not about what his opponent doesn't do as opposed to what he does to him. It's relative. Winning based on relativtiy is not greatnest it does not deserve the accolades he gets from the media who make him the focus point in boxing.
    Your hate for PBF is terrible. Are you sure it isn't more of what PBF is doing which isn't allowing the other person to do what they want to do? I think its more of what PBF is doing.
    Originally posted by Joartcc3
    Exaclty. Pure genius. This is what I've been trying to say and very few people have the wisdom to see it.

    It's all about what his opponent doesn't do rather than what he does. And so he wins pathetic fights by running like a chicken, throwing less than 30 punches per round and hugging ala J. Ruiz.

    And to think very few people have the wisdom to see beyond this facade. Goodness gracious!
    Your are a ****ing fool if you really believe that bull**** he wrote is "pure genius". Please name me all the fights PBF supposedly ran in because truth be told he didn't run versus De la Hoya or Baldomir. You are making it seem as this is all he has ever done. But I am willing to admit that he moved more in those two fights than any of his previous fights. Saying he ran in those 2 fights is a overstatement. If that is what is considered running what do you all call what De la Hoya did in the last 3-4 rounds against Trinidad and what do you all call what Andre Dirrell did in the Stevens fight?

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    • The Troll
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      #22
      Originally posted by mrrupo
      I'm pretty sure he bludgeoned Gatti... I agree with some of your criticism, but just because floyd is not a brawler doesnt mean he isnt great. I would love to see him in some wars, but that's not how he fights, and no one has forced him to fight that way, yet.

      Oh, and about sweet - it comes from a quote by a writer or reporter in which he called boxing "the sweet science of bruising". and about "sugar" - sugar ray robinson put bludgeonings on plenty of people. check the history of the guys with these names before making such a blanket statement.
      I thought it came from Robinson. It's said he killed 2 men in the ring and one of the most important fights to his career, the fight he won the middleweight championship, the 6th against Lamotta the last 3 rounds the 13 round, what was sweet and pretty about that? Tell me?

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        #23
        He's a great fighter Robinson.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Joartcc3
          Doesn't need to? Lols.

          Another excuse coming from an idiot like you. Yeah right.

          Fake Floyd doesn't need to prove himself anymore.

          Freitas, Casamayor, Kostya, Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Mosley.

          He doesn't need to prove himself anymore.

          yeah right.
          He dominated 130 and beat arguably the best 135 pound fighter. After he beats Hatton, he beat the best 140 pounder. Everything he does at Welterweight is icing on the cake. You're bitter that your man is not first p4p. Go ahead and keep bitching, nothing will change.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Joartcc3
            Exaclty. Pure genius. This is what I've been trying to say and very few people have the wisdom to see it.

            It's all about what his opponent doesn't do rather than what he does. And so he wins pathetic fights by running like a chicken, throwing less than 30 punches per round and hugging ala J. Ruiz.

            And to think very few people have the wisdom to see beyond this facade. Goodness gracious!
            Lol you've never seen a Mayweather fight. You are a joke man. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

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              #26
              Floyd lacks substance to be considered a great fighter. Other fighters who had his ablities (Robinson) used to them to inflict damage on their opponents rather than just a rely a miniscule amount of offense relative to a lesser amount of effectve offense by his opponents.

              Substance in boxing is landing a ****load of power punching in a round, noticeably hurting your opponent multiple times, knocking your opponent down. The most convincing and indisputable ways to win a round or fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by McKay
                Floyd lacks substance to be considered a great fighter. Other fighters who had his ablities (Robinson) used to them to inflict damage on their opponents rather than just a rely a miniscule amount of offense relative to a lesser amount of effectve offense by his opponents.

                Substance in boxing is landing a ****load of power punching in a round, noticeably hurting your opponent multiple times, knocking your opponent down. The most convincing and indisputable ways to win a round or fight.
                Does that mean that Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker were not fighters of substance?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                  Does that mean that Willie Pep and Pernell Whitaker were not fighters of substance?
                  I havn't seen Willie Pep fight enough to say that and Whitaker was never elevated to the status that Mayweather is to merit my attention. He was never the focul point in boxing. He was something different off to the side to see. With maybe a cult of diehard fans.

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                  • tredh
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by McKay
                    I havn't seen Willie Pep fight enough to say that and Whitaker was never elevated to the status that Mayweather is to merit my attention. He was never the focul point in boxing. He was something different off to the side to see. With maybe a cult of diehard fans.
                    Whitaker has been p4p #1 and was considered to have been robbed in his fight against Chavez who was #1p4p when they fought. Shows how much you really know because Whitaker has been on PBF level and past it if you ask a few old timers who are still around.
                    Your hate of PBF is biased and blind just leave it alone. We all understand that you don't like or respect PBF but because you are biased in your assesments of him you can not make a logical arguement against him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      Whitaker has been p4p #1 and was considered to have been robbed in his fight against Chavez who was #1p4p when they fought. Shows how much you really know because Whitaker has been on PBF level and past it if you ask a few old timers who are still around.
                      Your hate of PBF is biased and blind just leave it alone. We all understand that you don't like or respect PBF but because you are biased in your assesments of him you can not make a logical arguement against him.
                      f**K your ring magazine p4p rankings. He was nowhere near the level notoriety that Mayweather is. Nowhere near the focus point in boxing. Like I said he was off to the side as something different with maybe a cult following off diehard supporters.

                      In his prime boxing was fixated entirely on the heavyweight division in the mainstream.

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