Was Willie Pep a COWARD?

[joepal]

You know the funny thing ,, for some dumb ass reason the grass is always greener in the good ol days ,,, in Peps era he was revered as a great great boxer , still is ,, today is the era of PBF and he is every bit as good or better than Willie Pep ever was , like Kostya just said Floyd is a boxing freak .

Floyd better than Pep?

[crillz]

I'd have believed what you said if only you removed your avatar. Nice try though.

you the hater kind of ***** I'm talking about in that post, so what if I got Floyd on my avatar? does that make me biased? all you have to go by about me is my words that I typed in posts cuz in life you don't **** from **** about me, I respect the sport and anyone who has the heart to lace them gloves up and put their life on the line.. woulda believed me? nice try? do you think I give a **** if you believe me? you actually think I was trying to convince you or something? you delusional dogz get help.. 100

[wmute]

You know the funny thing ,, for some dumb ass reason the grass is always greener in the good ol days ,,, in Peps era he was revered as a great great boxer , still is ,, today is the era of PBF and he is every bit as good or better than Willie Pep ever was , like Kostya just said Floyd is a boxing freak .

I mean 240 pro fights is not such a dumb ass reason. Fighters from back then were tested in battle. Their ability to adapt must have been perfected to a level which is unthinkable in the world of 40 fights careers.

Still, Mayweather is a great fighter, and saying that a guy who constantly shares the ring with someone bigger than him is a coward is one of the dumbest thing on earth.

[RodBarker]

Good thread Dios, idiots need to be reminded...

Floyd better than Pep?

Did you just watch the Pep video ,,,, and you cant see with your own eyes , mate your as bright as a tin of black paint , I suppose Jack Johnson and Dempsey beats Ali as well .

[wmute]

Did you just watch the Pep video ,,,, and you cant see with your own eyes , mate your as bright as a tin of black paint , I suppose Jack Johnson and Dempsey beats Ali as well .

Jack Johnson would never be able to beat Ali.

Jack Dempsey had the right type of style... constant pressure, side to side movement, closes the distance fast. On the other hand Tunney beat Dempsey. On the other hand (third hand) Dempsey had been inactive for years at that point. I would pick Ali, but I would not be betting any money on it.

[RodBarker]

I mean 240 pro fights is not such a dumb ass reason. Fighters from back then were tested in battle. Their ability to adapt must have been perfected to a level which is unthinkable in the world of 40 fights careers.

Still, Mayweather is a great fighter, and saying that a guy who constantly shares the ring with someone bigger than him is a coward is one of the dumbest thing on earth.

Out of those 240 fights you have a handfull of guys worth a dam ,, the modern sportsman will whip the guys from way back every day of the week , times have changed , training has changed , athletes have changed dramaticly since the 70s and all for the better , in every field of human or animal competition the modern athlete is better more skilled better trained and better fed , the record books of all sport prove it .

Like the fights that went 30 rnds or more , the modern guys are gassed in 12 , whats going on ,, they must have been supermen in those days , wouldnt have anything to do with they threw 5 punches a round and stood there like coat hangers , same as having a 1000 fights its only relative to who you fight, when you are fighting the very best level of comp you cant go to the well every month , 240 fights divided by say 20 yrs is 1 fight a month over the entire 20 yrs , yeah right what was the competition like you say ,, the best gauge is to open your eyes and watch the old fights ,, Floyd would belt Pep no problems and Ali would school Dempsey ,

[kryo]

Greatest fighter who ever lived. RIP

[squealpiggy]

I think it is false that a fighter from yesteryear would be beaten by a modern fighter by virtue of training sophistication.Training methods for boxing are largely unchanged since the 30s and 40s because they are tried and tested. Sure more of the resistance training is done with weights than ever before but the calisthenics, roadwork, sparring and endurance training have not changed since after Dempsey's days. Add to that the vast experience amassed by fighters like Pep, who would instersperse their title fights with keep-busy nontitle bouts, and you have extremely accomplished boxers who would easily stand the test of time. Willie Pep is one of those fighters.

Noone who makes their living fighting other trained men is a coward. It is nonsense to suggest such a thing. I also think it is premature to be describing people as all time greats after just 38 fights, when they are still active. Floyd's ability is more than adequately recognised by his years on the p4p list and the years at number one on that list. ATG status is stretching it, and a true comparison can only be made in restrospect. It's nonsense to fight it because it's the way of the world.

[FUMIN 88]

Pep is one of the best fighters ever Mayweather isnt close to that get over it

[sonofisis]

Pep is one of the best fighters ever Mayweather isnt close to that get over it

Closer than anybody else is fighting today, get over it..