Why won't Pacquiao move to Welterweight?

[pasawayako]

its crazy how times went from

"pac is fighting small, old featherweights. if he moves up to ww he would get his ass kicked by margarito, mosley, cotto"

"he would be a midget to the ww's, no way pacquiao ever moves up"

to

"pac is cherry picking opponents. martigarito is garbage, cotto is coming off a beating, mosley is only there for the paycheck"

"pac is on something, how can he gain so much weight in 10 months. thats 12 lbs of lean muscle, he's on something"

im just gonna sit back and enjoy the show. this is comedy

These haters doesn't know that they're contradicting themselves because of too much hating to pac.

[Brother Jay]

You should not even be allowed to be on this forum. You post nothing but LIES and GARBAGE.

5 vacant world titles out of eight?

Here's 2 of them: Ring Super featherweight vs JMM in 3/15/08 and WBC SWW vs Margo in 11/13/10.
Now show the other three.

Pacquiao vs Jamili - vacant super bantamweight

Pacquiao vs Velazquez - vacant WBC International super featherweight title

Pacquiao vs Diaz - Diaz was the interim LW champion. He was not the champion at 135 to beat. David Diaz wasn't even ranked in the top 5 in 2008. Marquez, Campbell, Pacquiao, Juan Diaz & Casamayor were ranked above David Diaz. Pacquiao took the easy way out once David Diaz won that interim title.

Pacquiao vs Cotto - Arum set it up so that after Miguel Cotto got destroyed by Margarito, he could compete for the vacant WBO WW title and lose it to Pacquiao. Cotto wasn't even in line for that belt. Arum arranged for Cotto to win that vacant belt so to legitimize Pacquiao's claim at WW with a vacant title. Real fans remember that ****.

Pacquiao vs Margarito - vacant WBC light MW title.

Pacquiao's entire career is full of smoke and mirrors. He could have faced the recognized champion in each division. Its no coincidence that he did not. Just because you have a man-crush on Pacquiao doesn't mean that he doesn't have a pattern of avoiding the recognized champion in each of those 5 divisions.

Diaz and Cotto were not vacant title matches, but their titles were DEFINITELY VACANT AND INTERIM TITLES! As explained to your simple asss before ... YOU CANNOT BE THEE MAN UNLESS YOU BEAT THEE MAN! On five different occasions in five different divisions Pacquiao and his promoter made SURE that he did not face THEE MAN in favor of cherry-picking boxers who WERE NOT legitimate champions.

Its a common Top Rank practice. Look at Cotto, every belt Cotto competed for before defeating Yuri Foreman was a vacant title. Did you know that? I doubt it. Go look!

Margarito only won the vacant WBA WW title from Cotto because Cotto competed for the vacant WBA WW title against Carlos Quintana! Look at what Cotto did at 140!

The records tell the story. The stats show who fought real legitimate champions and who manufactured their resume to look good enough to warrant top billing.

Many of today's fighters are seeking vacant title fights because that way they don't have to face the best and most dangerous in the division they are in! All one has to do is look at the records.

Go look at how many vacant titles Margarito fought for. Its fcuking shameful.

Margarito vs Antonio Diaz
Margarito vs Golden Johnson
Margarito vs Roberto Garcia
Margarito vs Manny Pacquiao

Like I said before, its a very common practice of weak fighters to move ahead through clever smoke and mirror marketing and paper titles. Vacant titles is just one part of it. Fighting banned cheater DURING the ban is another. Fighting ONLY guys who have lost within 1-2 fights is another. Using catchweights in a division where you can make the division limit is another disgraceful tactic. Facing three of your stablemates in a row is yet another disgraceful tactic.

The list goes on and on and on. Some of you more desperate peasants will attempt to make the argument that because Pacquiao is only 2" shorter than both Mayweather and Mosley, he should be given special credit despite not winning under legitimate conditions because he is "so small".

Give me a fcuking break.

None of the best have asked for special considerations. A catchweight is supposed to be used in cases where a man goes up so far above his current division that he needs one(a catchweight) just to stand a chance. Pacquiao could have ALWAYS made the 147lb weight limit. It was just that Roach and Arum knew that the real advantage lied in making the opponent suffer to make a lower weight than they had been training for. Cutting weight, especially those last 2 or 3 pounds, is always the hardest. Ask ANY athlete that has ever had to cut weight.

Its simply another disgraceful tactic used by Arum, Roach and Pacquiao to get an advantage. LOL@them accusing Margarito of using ephedra! They wanted him slow as hell so that Pacquiao could outclass him. When was the last time boxing fans have seen Margarito weigh in looking so ripped and gaunt? I can't remember the last time I saw him look like that. *******ed peasants have no idea how crucial the rehydration period is and what drastic effects it can have on a fighters performance.

You will always be beneath me, Puta-tang ... and definitely 10 steps behind.

Learn to love it.

[SirTomJones]

Because everybody at Welterweight would slaughter his small ass, AND he wouldnt hit nearly as hard up there

[jjbj2]

Pacquiao vs Jamili - vacant super bantamweight

Pacquiao vs Velazquez - vacant WBC International super featherweight title

Pacquiao vs Diaz - Diaz was the interim LW champion. He was not the champion at 135 to beat. David Diaz wasn't even ranked in the top 5 in 2008. Marquez, Campbell, Pacquiao, Juan Diaz & Casamayor were ranked above David Diaz. Pacquiao took the easy way out once David Diaz won that interim title.

Pacquiao vs Cotto - Arum set it up so that after Miguel Cotto got destroyed by Margarito, he could compete for the vacant WBO WW title and lose it to Pacquiao. Cotto wasn't even in line for that belt. Arum arranged for Cotto to win that vacant belt so to legitimize Pacquiao's claim at WW with a vacant title. Real fans remember that ****.

Pacquiao vs Margarito - vacant WBC light MW title.

Pacquiao's entire career is full of smoke and mirrors. He could have faced the recognized champion in each division. Its no coincidence that he did not. Just because you have a man-crush on Pacquiao doesn't mean that he doesn't have a pattern of avoiding the recognized champion in each of those 5 divisions.

Diaz and Cotto were not vacant title matches, but their titles were [b]DEFINITELY VACANT AND INTERIM TITLES![b/] As explained to your simples asss before ... YOU CANNOT BE THEE MAN UNLESS YOU BEAT THEE MAN! On five different occasions in five different divisions Pacquiao and his promoter made SURE that he did not face THEE MAN in favor of cherry-picking two boxers who WERE NOT legitimate champions.

Its a common Top Rank practice. Look at Cotto, every belt Cotto competed for before defeating Yuri Foreman was a vacant title. Did you know that? I doubt it. Go look!

Margarito only won the vacant WBA WW title from Cotto because Cotto competed for the vacant WBA WW title against Carlos Quintana! Look at what Cotto did at 140!

The records tell the story. The stats show who fought real legitimate champions and who manufactured their resume to look good enough to warrant top billing.

Many of today's fighters are seeking vacant title fights because that way they don't have to face the best and most dangerous in the division they are in! All one has to do is look at the records.

Go look at how many vacant titles Margarito fought for. Its fcuking shameful.

Margarito vs Antonio Diaz
Margarito vs Golden Johnson
Margarito vs Roberto Garcia
Margarito vs Manny Pacquiao

Like I said before, its a very common practice of weak fighters to move ahead through clever smoke and mirror marketing and paper titles. Vacant titles is just one part of it. Fighting banned cheater DURING the ban is another. Fighting ONLY guys who have lost within 1-2 fights is another. Using catchweights in a division where you can make the division limit is another disgraceful tactic. Facing three of your stablemates in a row is yet another disgraceful tactic.

The list goes on and on and on. Some of you more desperate peasants will attempt to make the argument that because Pacquiao is only 2" shorter than both Mayweather and Mosley, he should be given special credit despite not winning under legitimate conditions because he is "so small".

Give me a fcuking break.

None of the best have asked for special considerations. A catchweight is supposed to be used in cases where a man goes up so far above his current division that he needs one(a catchweight) just to stand a chance. Pacquiao could have ALWAYS made the 147lb weight limit. It was just that Roach and Arum knew that the real advantage lied in making the opponent suffer to make a lower weight than they had been training for. Cutting weight, especially those last 2 or 3 pounds, is always the hardest. Ask ANY athlete that has ever had to cut weight.

Its simply another disgraceful tactic used by Arum, Roach and Pacquiao to get an advantage. LOL@them accusing Margarito of using ephedra! They wanted him slow as hell so that Pacquiao could outclass him. When was the last time boxing fans have seen Margarito weigh in looking so ripped and gaunt? I can't remember the last time I saw him look like that. *******ed peasants have no idea how crucial the rehydration period is and what drastic effects it can have on a fighters performance.

You will always be beneath me, Puta-tang ... and definitely 10 steps behind.

Learn to love it.

Longest worthless drivel. Stopped reading after 1st paragraph.

[John Barron]

Longest worthless drivel. Stopped reading after 1st paragraph.

[Brother Jay]

Longest worthless drivel. Stopped reading after 1st paragraph.

You stopped reading because that **** made you start crying like a little b!tch.

Nothing hurts more than the truth, peasant.

[jjbj2]

You stopped reading because that **** made you start crying like a little b!tch.

Nothing hurts more than the truth, peasant.

You don't want facts in here. You just want to hear your own voice.

Just to let you know what you preach are all crap.

[Brother Jay]

You don't want facts in here. You just want to hear your own voice.

Just to let you know what you preach are all crap.

You are an excellent example of the 3rd world peasants that I speak about on this site.

You have nothing to say. You have no knowledge to refute what I have written. But you have misguided peasant pride that leads you to argue and insult without cause other than hurt pride.

Where are YOUR facts?

What is YOUR argument?

You make all *******ed peasants seem WORSE than I could ever make them seem.

All you have to do is be an adult and clearly type out your thoughts and ideas. Show us that Pacquiao isn't just the champion of the dirt poor cat eaters by articulating a well thought out argument. If not, then we all know not to order the fried chicken wings from your kitchen.

MEEEOOOEWW!!!

[Tulisanto]

You are an excellent example of the 3rd world peasants that I speak about on this site.

You have nothing to say. You have no knowledge to refute what I have written. But you have misguided peasant pride that leads you to argue and insult without cause other than hurt pride.

Where are YOUR facts?

What is YOUR argument?

You make all *******ed peasants seem WORSE than I could ever make them seem.

All you have to do is be an adult and clearly type out your thoughts and ideas. Show us that Pacquiao isn't just the champion of the dirt poor cat eaters by articulating a well thought out argument. If not, then we all know not to order the fried chicken wings from your kitchen.

MEEEOOOEWW!!!

simple fact:

only one of pac's titles was a vacant title , thats a fact contrary to your claim.

[Bee Keepz]

He just weighed in at 144lbs on Saturday night against Barrera, Welterweight is 3lbs north of that with much better competition including Mosley, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Hatton(if he stays there), Cotto, Cintron, and Williams.

I post this question because I keep reading Pacquiao fans saying Pac would annihilate Mayweather, if so, why not move up?

The only real fights left in his division is a Marquez rematch, and a war with Katsidis. Guzman is an overrated hype job who will get KTFO when he steps up in competition like Rey Bautista did, and he hasn't even earned a shot at Manny.

So why not just move up? The competition is there, the fights are there, and if he wants to be considered an all time great, his legacy requires it.

4 out of 7 ain't bad.

Jouwsed to the core can't even crack 150 on fight night.