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    #171
    Originally posted by tredh
    . Taylor put up a good fight even though he lost. Many people want to see a rematch so that is bull****..
    He put on a good fight, he fought hard to defend the title. People want to see rematches of what were good fights. Makes sense if you ask me.

    Originally posted by tredh
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    PBF is held to a different standard and judged differently than any other boxer right now for whatever reason. .
    so you if it was Kelly Pavlik assuming Floyd's antics inside the ring he would not meet the same criticism? Is it maybe because Floyd is black or maybe his personality?

    Bottom line: For a guy that gets the accolads of Floyd and who is championed by so many in media, sanctioning bodies, he deserves a ****load of criticism.

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      #172
      Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
      He used to be more of a boxer puncher, but as he moved up in weight he can't rely on his moderate punches to put people down anymore. People are stronger and can take his punches better at the weights he is fighting at now as opposed to in his earlier career. And yes, when all is said and done if Floyd fights for 3-5 more years and continues beating champions he should be recognized and talked about in the same category as some of the ATG. Just because his style isn't as appealing as many of the greats doesn't make him any worse of a fighter. The #'s don't lie.

      Oh, and I wont even begin to guess who is the best in the sport today if PBF isn't.
      KOing HOFers will always be BETTER than running away from journeymen or potshotting them. And boxing should always be first and foremost, a macho sport. It is characterized by a fight. Anything less than this relegates it to mere ballet.

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        #173
        Originally posted by joepal
        KOing HOFers will always be BETTER than running away from journeymen or potshotting them. And boxing should always be first and foremost, a macho sport. It is characterized by a fight. Anything less than this relegates it to mere ballet.
        Yea tell that to Ali and Sugar Ray Leonard.

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          #174
          Originally posted by joepal
          KOing HOFers will always be BETTER than running away from journeymen or potshotting them. And boxing should always be first and foremost, a macho sport. It is characterized by a fight. Anything less than this relegates it to mere ballet.
          Your post kinda' falls in line w/ my earlier post about us idolozing the past. Many of the fighters that SRR and others were beating weren't all that great either. People are quick to say, "lol gaywethr iz nuthin lik da KOing dudes ov da past!" In actuallity, when you truly take a step back and analyze all of his opponents Floyd all ready has an easy HoF ballot and after Hatton if he keeps it up it'll be one of the best the sport has seen.

          Although I do agree. I would obviously prefer all boxers to be boxer/punchers as opposed to pure boxers. As much as I enjoy watching somebody dominate somebody in the ring w/ speed, skill, ring savvy; I'd still like to have the thought they might knock out their opponent given the chance too.

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            #175
            There's no way I can even evision Mayweather even being competetive of Hearns of Duran.

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              #176
              Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
              Your post kinda' falls in line w/ my earlier post about us idolozing the past. Many of the fighters that SRR and others were beating weren't all that great either. People are quick to say, "lol gaywethr iz nuthin lik da KOing dudes ov da past!" In actuallity, when you truly take a step back and analyze all of his opponents Floyd all ready has an easy HoF ballot and after Hatton if he keeps it up it'll be one of the best the sport has seen.

              Although I do agree. I would obviously prefer all boxers to be boxer/punchers as opposed to pure boxers. As much as I enjoy watching somebody dominate somebody in the ring w/ speed, skill, ring savvy; I'd still like to have the thought they might knock out their opponent given the chance too.
              You dont even have to go back to see who has beaten better fighters than Corley or Gatti. Somebody has beaten the likes of MAB, JMM and Morales consecutively in a DOMINANT fashion.

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                #177
                Originally posted by McKay
                He knocked out Thomas Hearns in the 14th of a 15th round fight. Went tooth an nail with Duran for 15. He had a very powerfull left hook that he knocked alot of opponents out of with.

                And to this day he's rightly criticized for the way he fought Hagler, even though he did get more offense in for that fight than Floyd typically does against much less quality or dangerous opponents.
                Ali had knockouts too, then there were times where he danced for 15 rounds throwing his jab all night.

                Leonard danced his way to a victory in the rematch vs Duran. Duran couldn't take it anymore and quit.

                Floyd mayweather 38-0 24kos
                . That's only 14 fights out of 38 that went to distance. Enough said.

                You wanna criticise somebody for dancing and not knocking out anybody go **** with Pauli Malignaggi and Cory Spinks

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  There's no way I can even evision Mayweather even being competetive of Hearns of Duran.
                  Duran wouldve KOd Baldomir before the sixth round. No frigging comparison.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by vladimir303
                    Ali had knockouts too, then there were times where he danced for 15 rounds throwing his jab all night.

                    Leonard danced his way to a victory in the rematch vs Duran. Duran couldn't take it anymore and quit.

                    Floyd mayweather 38-0 24kos
                    . That's only 14 fights out of 38 that went to distance. Enough said.

                    You wanna criticise somebody for dancing and not knocking out anybody go **** with Pauli Malignaggi and Cory Spinks
                    Lotsa current boxers have way better KO ratios than that.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by vladimir303
                      Ali had knockouts too, then there were times where he danced for 15 rounds throwing his jab all night.

                      Leonard danced his way to a victory in the rematch vs Duran. Duran couldn't take it anymore and quit.

                      Floyd mayweather 38-0 24kos
                      . That's only 14 fights out of 38 that went to distance. Enough said.

                      You wanna criticise somebody for dancing and not knocking out anybody go **** with Pauli Malignaggi and Cory Spinks
                      Ali was never very agressive but his punches had such a snap, that he'd get alot of flash knockdown /knockouts and also TKO's. He was not liked at all when he was in so called prime, the media loved him the but the general public hated the hell out of him for the same reasons people dont like Mayweather. He was booed in every fight like hell.

                      Ali set alot of bad precedents in boxing.

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