Arum: "Mayweather Can't Beat Cotto or Mosley"

[MindBat]

ROBERT MORALES: Hey, Bob, what makes you say – we all know all the fighters you’ve been involved in, all the fighters you’ve seen, what makes you say that Floyd is the best fighter you’ve seen in 40 years other than the young Muhammad Ali?

BOB ARUM: Well, you know, there are a number of aspects that make a great fighter. One is speed. His speed is phenomenal. The way he throws punches, phenomenal. The way he is conditioned, phenomenal. I mean, he’s the entire whole package. And beside all of those skills, he is the – again, put Ali aside – and I was just those couple of years with Ali were, I mean, maybe because my eyes were younger then, but put Ali aside, other than Ali, he’s the most intelligent fighter that I have ever seen. I mean, Floyd, this is no bull****; Floyd can see a punch coming before the other guy knows he’s going to throw it. Do you understand that? I mean, I have never seen such ring intelligence that Floyd demonstrates.
And so he’s the whole package, and you know, Ray Leonard was a great fighter, Marvin Hagler was a great fighter, Duran certainly was great, Oscar had a couple of years where he was very good, but there’s nobody that is a whole package like Floyd.

Flip flopping are we, Mr. Arum?

boxfan,

1) see post #10

2) Arum is trying to get his man Migs a big payday. Last year, it was Margarito. Next year, it will be somebody else.

Ditto that.

good ole arum.

at least he was honest when he said 'yesterday i was lying, today i am telling the truth'.

well maybe he was lying about that. maybe on that day, he was lying but had told the truth the previous 2 days.

So, you're not implying he's a liar, are you?

Has anybody lied more than Delahoya??

I love the way that Tito undressed Oscar last year. Last November, when Oscar was squeezing Floyd on the contract, he said "Maybe I'll go fight Trinidad". Leverage. OK. Fine.

Clowned.

I knew Oscar was a bi-lateral.

[realheavyhands]

when mayweather was under arum just a couple yearsa ago he was saying mayweather was the best since muhammad ali and sugar ray leanord and all this ****.. i dont like bob arum.. don king is better

[crillz]

I wouldn't jump off the roof so much as to say Shane can beat him, I just cant see that happening, I could see Shane making it a fight but I don't think he can do that straight hand to hand, punch with every ounce of speed and power in you type of fight, Mayweather knows how to use his angles, catch you with a punch and move accordingly in the direction your body shifts to after his punch connects, he gets out of tough spots like that and has many many many tricks to bail himself out of those greuling blows, I just can't see Shane out-boxing Mayweather..

Mayweather has those punches that stand out while Shane is more of a super quick flurry type with good power and follow threw but floyd knows how to distance himself enough and land those distinct shots to appeal, it happened in the De La Hoya fight, he also can block very very well, punches that would normally land don't because he's just good on overall defense wether by him moving out of the way or catching a blow on his elbows, his conditioning wont allow him to fall into exhaustion and his skills wont allow him to be easily hit, Shane will come and keep coming but he will get the worse of the round winning exchanges, no knockout here just a good, fast paced boxing match with 2 great fighters, my money would be on Floyd respectably with a good point of view to back it up..

Cotto however I think can beat Mayweather, he is a great counterpuncher and hits ****ing hard, harder than anyone else Mayweather ever faced, I give Mayweather a BIG chance though because he's too evasive, he is just a master boxer and people like him, much like a puncher, you can never count them out of a fight but I just see Cotto landing blows Mayweather has never felt in multiples of 3 or 4 punches landed everytime, it's like imagine getting hit 3 or 4 times ranging from head to body(which Mayweather tends to leave open at time and just so happens to be Cotto's main target) with the hardest, most solid and toughtest blows of your whole career throughout the course of 12 rounds, I just don't see Mayweather being able to withstand Cotto's array of punches in a situation where he's backed up and brutally caught, this wont be Ricky Hatton yo we talking about a natural Welterweight in Miguel Cotto who is undefeated against tough opposition..

ain't no starving himself anymore he's in the division his body called for meaning he's twice as dangerous and Mayweather nor Mosley can deal with his assault, I'm willing to put every point in my BS bank account and every dollar in my real one on this because I know Cotto will do it, he's too much for any welterweight, maybe Margarito and Williams will rock him somewhat because of their height but Margarito got a few fights before he's back up there and i don't see Cotto-Williams happening right now either so I see in Cotto's immediate the fight with Shane and then a mega fight with the winner of Mayweather-Hatton early next year, **** if they are smart they would let Mayweather chill for a while, fight some other guy and just set up the Mayweather bout for the night of the festival in MSG in June of next year, that makes a lot of sense..

I see Mosley catching an L against Mayweather but Cotto can do it, I know that after Mayweather fights Hatton he will come back and face the winner of the next few major fights in the WW division, he's the champ right? so let the contenders fight eachother for the #1 spot and let the champions fight eachother for the unification, I want to see Mayweather face Cotto because I can assure you if Mayweather wins NONE of you will be hating on him, IF however he loses Cotto will skyrocket himself into #1 P4P fighter in the world, he doesn't take on easy opponents yo he would deserve it.. 100

[MindBat]

yeah...

when mayweather was under arum just a couple yearsa ago he was saying mayweather was the best since muhammad ali and sugar ray leanord and all this ****.. i dont like bob arum..
don king is better

At least he uses bigger words.

[Williamb45]

ROBERT MORALES: Hey, Bob, what makes you say – we all know all the fighters you’ve been involved in, all the fighters you’ve seen, what makes you say that Floyd is the best fighter you’ve seen in 40 years other than the young Muhammad Ali?

BOB ARUM: Well, you know, there are a number of aspects that make a great fighter. One is speed. His speed is phenomenal. The way he throws punches, phenomenal. The way he is conditioned, phenomenal. I mean, he’s the entire whole package. And beside all of those skills, he is the – again, put Ali aside – and I was just those couple of years with Ali were, I mean, maybe because my eyes were younger then, but put Ali aside, other than Ali, he’s the most intelligent fighter that I have ever seen. I mean, Floyd, this is no bull****; Floyd can see a punch coming before the other guy knows he’s going to throw it. Do you understand that? I mean, I have never seen such ring intelligence that Floyd demonstrates.
And so he’s the whole package, and you know, Ray Leonard was a great fighter, Marvin Hagler was a great fighter, Duran certainly was great, Oscar had a couple of years where he was very good, but there’s nobody that is a whole package like Floyd.

a question. while under top rank, what wightclass was floyd fighting at?

[Fox McCloud]

a question. while under top rank, what wightclass was floyd fighting at?

147, it was during the time when Arum made the $8 million Margarito offer. So after Zab I think.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

a question. while under top rank, what wightclass was floyd fighting at?

Do you follow the sport?? Who promoted "Sworn Enemies"?

[pbftxrs316]

floyd mayweather has been the best fighter in professional boxing since he defeated diego corrales. he will be the best fighter in the sport for years to come. bob arum is talking out of his ass and he is really jealous of mayweather, who is better than cotto. bob arum has really become a sad promoter with no since of diginity when it comes to talent in the ring. mayweather is the smartest fighter in the ring, which is why he is the best fighter over all of his other attributes and skills. he's a finesse fighter with a unique mindset in the ring, and a keen sense of eye coordination. how he wins his fights is through his eyes. he gets into this zone it seems and he showcases pure zest for the sport.

all you on here bashing floyd and his accomplishments should be ashamed of yourselves, because you guys really make such poignant posts and it gets old, fast. to say mayweather runs and takes no risks it silly. him fighting at higher weights is risky enough. don't bash him because he knows how to win. don't bash him because the person who he fights isn't good enough to change his fighting style at this current moment. don't blame him for not fighting a guy like margarito who floyd never ducked and would defeat if they fought.

did shane nopt have the oppurtunity to fight floyd at least on 2 different ocassions at 135 and 147, but turned him down. and, this is the shane who many believe can beat floyd(big, whoof, what else is new? everyone thinks they have what it takes to defeat floyd, until after the 1st round.) many feel shane was at his best at 135, yet he didn't and wouldn't fight floyd.

cotto has never come out and mentioned floyd's name until recently, and it wasn't really him, just arum, who knows his fighter would be outclassed in every aspect fighting floyd. heart in boxing is a great trait in becoming a warrior, but that's only good for some fighters. only fighters like a mayweather, who has the smarts to defeat any fighter placed in front of him, have a true will to win. he doesn't know how to lose in boxing according to him, and that confidence along with his ****yness defines a living legend which he is and will always be.

call him boring, but it takes 2 to tango and nobody has crushed floyd yet, so deal with it. i'd rather be a boring winner than a exciting loser anyday. so, floyd takes top spot and he deserves it, because he is the most skilled technical fighter of his generation with amazing footwork, amazing upperbody movement, amazing defense, great counterpunching ability, great blocking. nobody from 154 down defeats the pretty boy, i guarantee you all.

[pbftxrs316]

cotto hits hard as hell, but floyd trains and spars with middleweights who i'm sure pack a heavier punch than cotto. cotto has to set his feet to land great punches like someone posted earlier. floyd can hit standing still or on the move, going backwards, on the ropes. he's too elusive for cotto, and he has much better upperbody movment than miguel. cotto may hit harder overall, but floyd's speed would be too much for cotto, and cotto has never faced a fighter as elusive as mayweather and may never face a fighter as elusive. cotto keeps fighting but against floyd, he'd have to go all out and take a chance of being stopped, while floyd could easily outbox the **** out of cotto, or showcasign his handspeed and go toe to toe with cotto. cotto has a vicious left hook, but floud has a quicker left hook which would prove too much for cotto. cotto attacks the body great, but floyd hinders vertical movement when he goes to the body. he can really break you down, without throwing hard punches to the body. cotto goes for the kill, while floyd fights smart, conserves his energy for the later rounds, yet, is good enough to throw punches accurately at the same time. cotto's footwork would be exposed by floyd easily if they fought. floyd's footwork is phenomenal to say the lest. his ability to attack from all types of angles whether counterpunching or just throwing jabs, rights, uppercuts, or hooks is amazing. floyd's skills vs cotto's skills is pretty easy. floyd has much better skills than cotto. cotto has skills, but mayweather much more and he would and will defeat cotto if and when they fight, i promise you all this.

[Wiley Hyena]

cotto hits hard as hell, but floyd trains and spars with middleweights who i'm sure pack a heavier punch than cotto. cotto has to set his feet to land great punches like someone posted earlier. floyd can hit standing still or on the move, going backwards, on the ropes. he's too elusive for cotto, and he has much better upperbody movment than miguel. cotto may hit harder overall, but floyd's speed would be too much for cotto, and cotto has never faced a fighter as elusive as mayweather and may never face a fighter as elusive. cotto keeps fighting but against floyd, he'd have to go all out and take a chance of being stopped, while floyd could easily outbox the **** out of cotto, or showcasign his handspeed and go toe to toe with cotto. cotto has a vicious left hook, but floud has a quicker left hook which would prove too much for cotto. cotto attacks the body great, but floyd hinders vertical movement when he goes to the body. he can really break you down, without throwing hard punches to the body. cotto goes for the kill, while floyd fights smart, conserves his energy for the later rounds, yet, is good enough to throw punches accurately at the same time. cotto's footwork would be exposed by floyd easily if they fought. floyd's footwork is phenomenal to say the lest. his ability to attack from all types of angles whether counterpunching or just throwing jabs, rights, uppercuts, or hooks is amazing. floyd's skills vs cotto's skills is pretty easy. floyd has much better skills than cotto. cotto has skills, but mayweather much more and he would and will defeat cotto if and when they fight, i promise you all this.

First he has to get by Ricky Hatton and his body attack, his great chin, his very fast hand and foot speed, his punching power and accuracy, his ability to cut off the ring, and his overall physical power and stamina. Hatton is the bigger man, height and reach excepted. Hatton will be stronger than Floyd in the ring. Floyd is in for the toughest fight of his career. Floyd's best chance is to stay away from Hatton and potshot him when Hatton moves in. Because of this, there is an outside chance that Hatton may get stopped on cuts, but Floyd will be feeling the pain, trust me. If Floyd comes in thinking this is going to be a walk in the park, like some here are convinced of, Floyd may get knocked out early. If Floyd comes in prepared and boxing from the outside, he may get a very painful but well earned UD. In any event, I pick Hatton by late fight TKO for the reason that Hatton will eventually drain Floyd of his energy. N'dou got to Floyd, but was not accurate and was not powerful enough to bring Floyd down. Hatton has accuracy and power.

Hatton may be the one who ends up fighting Cotto after Cotto dispenses with Shane Mosely.