Kelly Pavlik Could Beat Them All?

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  • Stromprophet
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    #81
    Originally posted by Easton Assassin
    Hopkins is 40 years old and not near as quik as he needs to be. If Taylor had moments against bernard so would Kelly and we all know how many Moments Kelly needs to turn the lights out dont we!

    Pavlick tko7!
    Exactly, Bernard tried a counter punching fight against Taylor, and look how that turned out, Pavlik doesn't get tired and he doesn't slow down. In fact, after the knockdown in round 2 his punch output went up.

    He's actually like 42 now isn't he?

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    • RockyMarciano
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      #82
      Pavlik is getting hyped for a lucky ko...In a rematch taylor would take him in my opinion.....sounds like all you guys are just setting pavlik up for a major dissapointment...

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      • Knicksman20
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        #83
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Must agree. Dawson would smoke Pavlik.
        Definitely agree there. Chad has great footwork, very good hand speed, & deceptive power. He's also a tall south paw. He would box circles & possibly stop Pavlik if they ever fought.

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        • ReadyUp
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          #84
          Originally posted by Knicksman20
          Definitely agree there. Chad has great footwork, very good hand speed, & deceptive power. He's also a tall south paw. He would box circles & possibly stop Pavlik if they ever fought.
          Glad to see people are coming to their senses.

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          • oldgringo
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            #85
            Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
            It's ok. But, I think they know what I'm getting at. Does Dawson have faster hands than Taylor? I don't think so. So what's the big deal with Dawson? He's fast and flashy and has some power. Questionable chin and no reach advantage. Hmm. Sounds an awful lot like Taylor.

            Nope, I'm not convinced. Dawson falls just like Taylor.
            Faster hands, better technique, and he is much harder to hit. Dawson was tagged by two world class light heavyweights, but he picked up right where he left off once he got up. He was only decked by Adamek when the fight started getting too predictable for him and he started losing focus.

            Adamek wasn't some hobo off the street either. Pavlik coming up that far in weight would be a bad idea against skilled light heavyweights with technique like Dawson and Adamek.

            The big deal with Dawson is that he's a very well rounded young fighter with just about every punch in the book. The guy works behind a great jab, mixes sharp punches in combination behind that jab, and gets out before you knwo what happened. Taylor backed straight up and came straight in with punches. Pavlik would quickly become aware that he'd have to throw caution to the wind against Dawson like Adamek became aware of later in the fight, but it'd probably be too much to overcome by that point. He'd get caught pushing that jab out there.

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            • Stromprophet
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              #86
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              Faster hands, better technique, and he is much harder to hit. Dawson was tagged by two world class light heavyweights, but he picked up right where he left off once he got up. He was only decked by Adamek when the fight started getting too predictable for him and he started losing focus.
              I don't know if that's the reason Adamek caught him. It was probably more because Dawson slowed down at the end of the fight.

              He didn't exactly get up either, if the fight went 15 rounds he probably could have lost it. He had to survive the last rounds.

              Pavlik got knocked down and actually came back the very next round and took it to Taylor. Dawson was holding and doing everything he could because he wasn't all there for the rest of the fight.

              Regardless, the weight classes are a little far apart, it's one thing to talk about super middleweight opponents, let's leave this there.

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              • Knicksman20
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                #87
                Originally posted by Stromprophet
                I don't know if that's the reason Adamek caught him. It was probably more because Dawson slowed down at the end of the fight.

                He didn't exactly get up either, if the fight went 15 rounds he probably could have lost it. He had to survive the last rounds.


                Pavlik got knocked down and actually came back the very next round and took it to Taylor. Dawson was holding and doing everything he could because he wasn't all there for the rest of the fight.

                Regardless, the weight classes are a little far apart, it's one thing to talk about super middleweight opponents, let's leave this there.
                You're kidding right? Chad was a little buzzed but he handled himself like a champion in the round where he was knocked down. Actually also finished the fight strong asserting himself again.

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                • Stromprophet
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Knicksman20
                  You're kidding right? Chad was a little buzzed but he handled himself like a champion in the round where he was knocked down. Actually also finished the fight strong asserting himself again.
                  I'm not kidding, I gave Adamek the last rounds clearly. He wasn't just a little buzzed, go back and watch it again. If that fight goes longer I think he's in trouble.

                  He "survived" in the round he got knocked down.

                  Be more objective, I've seen you pimping dawson the last few pages, just because you love a fighter doesn't mean they aren't flawed. The other fighter who knocked him down wasn't even an elite fighter, just strong.

                  Regardless, it doesn't really have bearing, Pavlik isn't going to move up to 175.

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                  • -Antonio-
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                    #89
                    Dawson can easily make 168, maybe even 165. He just moved up to LH like last year. Pavlik's power would give him all sorts of trouble. It would not be a one sided fight. I'd bet all my points on that.

                    Don't get me wrong, I think Dawson is the real deal, but I believe the same about Pavlik, and there's no reason why he cant carry his power 5-8 pounds north. Adamek looked absolutely lost against Dawson. He just pawed with his jab all night, and he was so gun shy with his right hand because he was getting countered. Pavlik would at least let go.
                    Last edited by -Antonio-; 10-04-2007, 02:05 PM.

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                    • Knicksman20
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Stromprophet
                      I'm not kidding, I gave Adamek the last rounds clearly. He wasn't just a little buzzed, go back and watch it again. If that fight goes longer I think he's in trouble.

                      He "survived" in the round he got knocked down.

                      Be more objective, I've seen you pimping dawson the last few pages, just because you love a fighter doesn't mean they aren't flawed. The other fighter who knocked him down wasn't even an elite fighter, just strong.

                      Regardless, it doesn't really have bearing, Pavlik isn't going to move up to 175.
                      No he wasn't as hurt as you think he was so I suggest you watch the fight again. If he was hurt as bad as you say then Adamek should've finished him right? You're an ass clown buddy. I posted once in regards to Chad which was on this page explaining why I think he would beat Pavlik & I'm pimping him? If you would kindly remove Pavliks nutts from your mouth it would greatly appreciated **** suck.

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