Hatton: "I'll Be On Him Like A Rash"

[SkillspayBills]

I don't totally follow you here, Skils. (?)

Oh I was letting you know that I am saving up the points to wager with you once the 7th of Dec. comes around I shoul dhave enough to make a good wager.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Lets be honest here, of course it is possible for Hatton to lose this one. But Hatton has as good a chance as anyone who has troubled PBF. Quite a few people have troubled PBF or caused him a bit of a headache. Why cant Hatton do the same, but a bit better.
Hatton is a p4p guy and is unbeaten. That is a person with a record if you fight you might probably lose. The stats prove it. 43 have fought hatton and lost. You dont even need to be a mathematician to do the Maths here.

Hugh,

May I be honest, genuine and not hyperbolic here?

Ricky Hatton is a good fighter. Principally because he has one thing that he does very well. Any fighter who has one overarching strength or a singular, towering ability will be able to beat alot of guys. Ricky has achieved a measure of success with his swarming style, and for that he should be commended.

HOWEVER, a fighter with just one style or ability will not be able to beat a fighter of Floyd's caliber. Generally speaking. Oscar Delahoya had success because he is big, strong, fast, long, skilled, experienced, great chin, durable, smart (kinda) , all those things. A very good all-around fighter. Don't forget that Oscar selected the date, the place, the weight, the gloves, the ring size, ....everything. Oscar completely stacked the deck in his favor. Oscar's main flaw is that he SOMETIMES doesn't finish fights strong.

The same things can be said of the first Castillo fight. A prime castillo was a bigger, very good all-around fighter. But because it was six years ago, and PBF was moving up from 130 to fight a big LW, that would no longer be applicable. I think we all agree that Mayweather would easily beat Castillo in 2007. The big size advantage had dissipated.

I heard Oscar compare this fight to Duran/Leonard. With all due respect, Ricky is no Roberto Duran. Duran is a much more versatile fighter. So was Chavez. Besides, Ray made mistakes that Floyd never makes: being lured into the other guy's fight.

Say what you want about Floyd, but FMJ fights a winning fight. Even if it means pretty, ugly, fast, boring, slow, bloody, whatever. He makes adjustments, and fights a winning fight.

Another important component: How do you prepare for Floyd's speed? Oscar got the best sparring partner in the history of the sport. And immediately after the fight, he said "wow, he's fast". You just can't replicate the kind of speed that Floyd has. There is nobody that Ricky can possibly spar with to anticipate and prepare for the hand and footspeed, AND UPPER BODY SPEED. Arturo Gatti said that the upper-body speed was a problem for him. And you can tell it was for Oscar, as well.

Steve Forbes ain't no Floyd Mayweather. Not nearly.

It is MUCH more possible for Floyd to replicate what Hatton will bring (aggression, swarm, body attack) than for Ricky to replicate what Floyd will bring. What do you tell your sparring partner: "I want you to be superfast and highly-skilled?" If they could do that, they wouldn't be sparring partners. Just my perspective.

Now, I think that Ricky said some smart things during the pressers. He said that he is going to be conservative early and selective about his attack. He said "nothing is more tiring than punching fresh air". That was an astute observation that made me think that he has a better gameplan than he had been talking for the past two years. BUT THEN, he seemed to revert course and started talking about being "in Floyd's chest", about being "on him like a rash", about "going forward", etc.

That is a mistake.

Not that he is going to outbox Floyd, but you have to give Floyd stuff to think about. Box a little, swarm a little, feint A LOT, make contact. TAKE SOME STEAM OFF THE PUNCHES TO JUST MAKE CONTACT. Floyd doesn't like to get hit. There is a signal in his brain that makes him think something is wrong if guys are making contact. That is a vestige of fighting grown men when he was a kid. So, focus more on contact than power. Try to throw him off his game.

PBF is an adjuster. He switches back and forth to southpaw alot. I'm surprised that you guys have not mentioned that. He circles in unconventional directions. He throws lead rights when he shouldn't. His natural athleticism and coordination allows him to get away with many things that less talented fighters can't. So Ricky has to be much more defensive-minded than he has been before. He will be hit from angles that he has never seen before. Ricky, I know you are planning a body attack. Tune up your defense. Because some hard stuff is coming back at you up top.

Floyd is not a concussive puncher. At 140, he has respectable power. Nobody can eat too many of his shots. Sharmba had fought Kostya Tszyu. And Sharmba said that Floyd is a "good puncher". Corley, Gatti, Judah, Bruseles, etc were all discouraged by being hit by him. Oscar gave Ricky some bad advice. Oscar DID say that he left his chin out there for Floyd to hit. DLH can do that. He is 165 pounds ripped and has an A++ chin. Oscar fought Hopkins, Trinidad, Shane twice, vargas, and Sturm. He was not hurt by any of them. Oscar has a GREAT chin. Hatton was hurt by Luis Collazo. Ricky doesn't have DLH's chin. Few do. That punch in the 5th round that buckled Oscar would KO Ricky.


Other advice to Ricky: keep your heart rate down. The final two weeks of camp in Vegas will be draining. A lot of fans will be there. Interviews. Demands on your time... and a weather change. On fight night, the arena will be bananas. This is the biggest fight of Ricky's life. It is not the biggest fight of Floyd's life. Hatton must control his emotions. Floyd is hearing the commentators. He is thinking about his money when the Judah brawl breaks out. FMJ is very poised. Ricky must be also.

Floyd has been training at elevation. Ricky has been training at virtually sea level. This, imo, is one of the reasons that Ricky has not finished well in his USA fights.

Mayweather is not as good a dancer as some others. Mark Cuban will go home next week. After that, probably a chick, and Floyd will be home by the end of October. Helio is much better than PBF is. Floyd will have five weeks of undistracted training.

You guys know my predition. I do not think that Hatton can win this fight. I envision that he will give PBF some looks early, and take 2-3 early rounds. And then Floyd will figure it out, put his foot on the gas, and open up Ricky's face. It will be over by 10.

But Ricky can make a very respectable showing and possibly even win over some American fans. The problem is that Floyd just won't be ****** in to fighting somebody else's fight. And I have seen Ricky unwisely entagled and hurt by Collazo.

I can't ever envision a scenario where Floyd is about to lose a fight in the 12th round to a scrub like Luis Collazo. Ever.

The gulf in abilities is just too big. PBF TKO 9/10 Hatton

[Addison]

Oh I was letting you know that I am saving up the points to wager with you once the 7th of Dec. comes around I shoul dhave enough to make a good wager.

Going for the longshot, eh? HaHa..

That Mayweather is really gonna have to have his lucky star workin..

[Wiley Hyena]

Hugh,

May I be honest, genuine and not hyperbolic here?

Ricky Hatton is a good fighter. Principally because he has one thing that he does very well. Any fighter who has one overarching strength or a singular, towering ability will be able to beat alot of guys. Ricky has achieved a measure of success with his swarming style, and for that he should be commended.

HOWEVER, a fighter with just one style or ability will not be able to beat a fighter of Floyd's caliber. Generally speaking. Oscar Delahoya had success because he is big, strong, fast, long, skilled, experienced, great chin, durable, smart (kinda) , all those things. A very good all-around fighter. Don't forget that Oscar selected the date, the place, the weight, the gloves, the ring size, ....everything. Oscar completely stacked the deck in his favor. Oscar's main flaw is that he SOMETIMES doesn't finish fights strong.

The same things can be said of the first Castillo fight. A prime castillo was a bigger, very good all-around fighter. But because it was six years ago, and PBF was moving up from 130 to fight a big LW, that would no longer be applicable. I think we all agree that Mayweather would easily beat Castillo in 2007. The big size advantage had dissipated.

I heard Oscar compare this fight to Duran/Leonard. With all due respect, Ricky is no Roberto Duran. Duran is a much more versatile fighter. So was Chavez. Besides, Ray made mistakes that Floyd never makes: being lured into the other guy's fight.

Say what you want about Floyd, but FMJ fights a winning fight. Even if it means pretty, ugly, fast, boring, slow, bloody, whatever. He makes adjustments, and fights a winning fight.

Another important component: How do you prepare for Floyd's speed? Oscar got the best sparring partner in the history of the sport. And immediately after the fight, he said "wow, he's fast". You just can't replicate the kind of speed that Floyd has. There is nobody that Ricky can possibly spar with to anticipate and prepare for the hand and footspeed, AND UPPER BODY SPEED. Arturo Gatti said that the upper-body speed was a problem for him. And you can tell it was for Oscar, as well.

Steve Forbes ain't no Floyd Mayweather. Not nearly.

It is MUCH more possible for Floyd to replicate what Hatton will bring (aggression, swarm, body attack) than for Ricky to replicate what Floyd will bring. What do you tell your sparring partner: "I want you to be superfast and highly-skilled?" If they could do that, they wouldn't be sparring partners. Just my perspective.

Now, I think that Ricky said some smart things during the pressers. He said that he is going to be conservative early and selective about his attack. He said "nothing is more tiring than punching fresh air". That was an astute observation that made me think that he has a better gameplan than he had been talking for the past two years. BUT THEN, he seemed to revert course and started talking about being "in Floyd's chest", about being "on him like a rash", about "going forward", etc.

That is a mistake.

Not that he is going to outbox Floyd, but you have to give Floyd stuff to think about. Box a little, swarm a little, feint A LOT, make contact. TAKE SOME STEAM OFF THE PUNCHES TO JUST MAKE CONTACT. Floyd doesn't like to get hit. There is a signal in his brain that makes him think something is wrong if guys are making contact. That is a vestige of fighting grown men when he was a kid. So, focus more on contact than power. Try to throw him off his game.

PBF is an adjuster. He switches back and forth to southpaw alot. I'm surprised that you guys have not mentioned that. He circles in unconventional directions. He throws lead rights when he shouldn't. His natural athleticism and coordination allows him to get away with many things that less talented fighters can't. So Ricky has to be much more defensive-minded than he has been before. He will be hit from angles that he has never seen before. Ricky, I know you are planning a body attack. Tune up your defense. Because some hard stuff is coming back at you up top.

Floyd is not a concussive puncher. At 140, he has respectable power. Nobody can eat too many of his shots. Sharmba had fought Kostya Tszyu. And Sharmba said that Floyd is a "good puncher". Corley, Gatti, Judah, Bruseles, etc were all discouraged by being hit by him. Oscar gave Ricky some bad advice. Oscar DID say that he left his chin out there for Floyd to hit. DLH can do that. He is 165 pounds ripped and has an A++ chin. Oscar fought Hopkins, Trinidad, Shane twice, vargas, and Sturm. He was not hurt by any of them. Oscar has a GREAT chin. Hatton was hurt by Luis Collazo. Ricky doesn't have DLH's chin. Few do. That punch in the 5th round that buckled Oscar would KO Ricky.


Other advice to Ricky: keep your heart rate down. The final two weeks of camp in Vegas will be draining. A lot of fans will be there. Interviews. Demands on your time... and a weather change. On fight night, the arena will be bananas. This is the biggest fight of Ricky's life. It is not the biggest fight of Floyd's life. Hatton must control his emotions. Floyd is hearing the commentators. He is thinking about his money when the Judah brawl breaks out. FMJ is very poised. Ricky must be also.

Floyd has been training at elevation. Ricky has been training at virtually sea level. This, imo, is one of the reasons that Ricky has not finished well in his USA fights.

Mayweather is not as good a dancer as some others. Mark Cuban will go home next week. After that, probably a chick, and Floyd will be home by the end of October. Helio is much better than PBF is. Floyd will have five weeks of undistracted training.

You guys know my predition. I do not think that Hatton can win this fight. I envision that he will give PBF some looks early, and take 2-3 early rounds. And then Floyd will figure it out, put his foot on the gas, and open up Ricky's face. It will be over by 10.

But Ricky can make a very respectable showing and possibly even win over some American fans. The problem is that Floyd just won't be ****** in to fighting somebody else's fight. And I have seen Ricky unwisely entagled and hurt by Collazo.

I can't ever envision a scenario where Floyd is about to lose a fight in the 12th round to a scrub like Luis Collazo. Ever.

The gulf in abilities is just too big. PBF TKO 9/10 Hatton

There are a number of things that are quite debatable in this post. But, at least Dios is breaking out and trying to be objective. It's a start. First of all, Dios underrates Hatton because 1) he doesn't like him, 2) he's staked his posting reputation on a Floyd win (not really, but he thinks this is so), and 3) he doesn't understand what Hatton brings to the table. I'll address #3: Dios thinks Hatton is an overprotected one dimensional fighter that has an admirable bit of grit in his gut. A read of his post implies this. He's wrong. Hatton's not just about his swarming style. It's much more complicated and dimensional than that. Hatton also has a great body attack. Hatton also has great hand and foot speed. Dios completely dismisses this very important fact. Hatton also has very good accuracy on his punches. Hatton also has great overall physical strength and stamina. (Not "freak" but it is outstanding) And contrary to Dios' opinion, Hatton has a great chin (just as good as Oscar's IMO) These are the reasons Ricky is 43-0.

But, Dios I do appreciate the comments you made on Floyd's attributes. You understand alot about Floyd. However, it's your misunderstanding of Hatton that is leading you astray. Just my opinion, ok? Peace.

[BmoreBrawler]

"FMJ fights a winning fight"

only in this forsaken era of boxing and its ****ty judges.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

"FMJ fights a winning fight"

only in this forsaken era of boxing and its ****ty judges.

Which era should he be fighting it for?

This isn't 1949 in the old Madison Square Garden. No grainy black and white film.

[BmoreBrawler]

Which era should he be fighting it for?

This isn't 1949 in the old Madison Square Garden. No grainy black and white film.

How bout the same judges that stiffed de la hoya for showing a lack of aggression in the ring?

[sonofisis]

The only thing Ricky will be on is the floor, before the 10th round..

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

There are a number of things that are quite debatable in this post. But, at least Dios is breaking out and trying to be objective. It's a start. First of all, Dios underrates Hatton because 1) he doesn't like him, 2) he's staked his posting reputation on a Floyd win (not really, but he thinks this is so), and 3) he doesn't understand what Hatton brings to the table. I'll address #3: Dios thinks Hatton is an overprotected one dimensional fighter that has an admirable bit of grit in his gut. A read of his post implies this. He's wrong. Hatton's not just about his swarming style. It's much more complicated and dimensional than that. Hatton also has a great body attack. Hatton also has great hand and foot speed. Dios completely dismisses this very important fact. Hatton also has very good accuracy on his punches. Hatton also has great overall physical strength and stamina. (Not "freak" but it is outstanding) And contrary to Dios' opinion, Hatton has a great chin (just as good as Oscar's IMO) These are the reasons Ricky is 43-0.

I will concede that Hatton is strong.

But it is impossible for me to use speed as an attribute when Hatton's next fight is against Floyd Joy Mayweather, Jr. No matter what Hatton does, he will be bringing a substantial speed deficit into the ring with him.

Also, nothing you can ever tell me will make me believe that Hatton's chin is equivalent to Oscar's. I cannot see Hatton surviving two fights with Shane , and Vargas and Hopkins. Sorry. No way.

But, Dios I do appreciate the comments you made on Floyd's attributes. You understand alot about Floyd. However, it's your misunderstanding of Hatton that is leading you astray. Just my opinion, ok? Peace.

I am balanced. I just sometimes enjoy pulling the chains of the hyper-sensitive Hatton fans.

[eric maldonado]

hatton aint **** witter and paulie would whoop his ass and torres would probably knock him out.the only person hatton has fought worth mentioning is tszyu