Dios and the rest are in complete denial...

[Azteca]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxin...erweight_x.htm

First ****ing article on google with the search terms, Mayweather Baldomir 8 million.

Anyways, even money.

Not even belts.

Why

in the ****

would he fight Margarito in that instance?

Seriously... you Mayweather haters would be THE WORST ****ing handlers in the history of the sport.

I bet you all thought that Marquez fighting Chris John instead of the Pacquiao rematch was a good move too huh?

Dude, you show that youve only been watching boxing for a year with every sport.

Marg had the WBO belt. And Arum offered 8 million.

8 million minus million is what?

Floyd made LESS money. but "if it makes dollars it makes cents", right??

And there is a massive difference between Chris John and Margarito. John fought his entire career in Thailand or whatever Asian country that was.

Margarito was proven in the US and was a decent commodity at the time.

[Azteca]

Please answer this question.
Which fight would be the hardest fight for floyd?
Carlos Baldomir or Antonio Margerito.
You talk about handlers and this is what is wrong in the sport.
Champs are picking easy fights rather than giving the fans what they deserve.

No other sport would accept anything less than the best facing the best.
Why does Boxing?
And why do you accept that?

Ray Leonard and DLH could of done the same thing Roy and Floyd made. But, as we all know, boxing is a business. Sooner or later the fans want more. And DLH/Ray gave it to them.

It's a shame it took THIS long for Floyd to finally give us something.

[Fox McCloud]

Dude, you show that youve only been watching boxing for a year with every sport.

Marg had the WBO belt. And Arum offered 8 million.

8 million minus million is what?

Floyd made LESS money. but "if it makes dollars it makes cents", right??

And there is a massive difference between Chris John and Margarito. John fought his entire career in Thailand or whatever Asian country that was.

Margarito was proven in the US and was a decent commodity at the time.

So listen... can you read?

It says, Mayweather made 8 million, in the article, straight up.

And now you are going to tell me that Margarito is a PPV star compared to Baldomir? No one gives a **** about either dude.

And where is your retort that the WBO belt is more legitimate than The Ring championship?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Show me the reports of Floyd making 10 million. I remember off the top of my head that he was making 8 million. I could be wrong...just want to see the facts before I spew my mouth.

OK?

Mayweather, Baldomir to square off with title on line

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By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com

Floyd Mayweather Jr., widely regarded as the pound-for-pound king, will challenge welterweight champion Carlos Baldomir Nov. 4 in an HBO PPV main event at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.



"We're very excited about fighting Baldomir," said Leonard Ellerbe, a Mayweather adviser. "It's the fight the fans want to see. Baldomir is coming off two major victories and the fans say he's the true welterweight champion. You have the 'Pretty Boy' coming to take away his welterweight championship."



Baldomir, of Argentina, was unknown when he upset undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah in January in New York, Judah's hometown. Baldomir parlayed that victory into a July 22 fight against popular Arturo Gatti, stopping him with ease in the ninth round in Atlantic City, N.J., Gatti's home base.



Now he will face Mayweather in Las Vegas, where Mayweather lives.



Despite nine losses, Baldomir is 19-0-2 in his last 21 bouts and hasn't lost since 1998. He has only been stopped once, suffering a second-round knockout in 1994 in his seventh fight.



"We know Baldomir is a tough, hard-nosed competitor," Ellerbe said. "He's coming to knock Floyd off his throne. He's been known for going to people's backyards and pulling off upsets. In his mind, he's coming to Vegas to do the same thing. We've got different plans for him. We'll show Baldomir why Floyd is the best fighter in the world. But we expect a very tough fight from him. He didn't just happen to go into New York and beat a very talented Zab Judah. He didn't just happen to go into Atlantic City and beat Gatti. We know what he is bringing to the table. When you are on top like Floyd is, everyone is gunning for you."



Mayweather (36-0, 29 KOs) also holds victories against Gatti and Judah. He stopped Gatti last summer to win a junior welterweight title. Then he moved up in weight in April and easily outpointed Judah, who was coming off the loss to Baldomir.



For beating Judah, Mayweather, 29, won a tainted welterweight belt, one that Judah was allowed to keep by the IBF even though he lost to Baldomir (43-9-6, 13 KOs) in a title fight. Mayweather later relinquished it.



Against Baldomir, Mayweather can win the recognized world welterweight championship. He previously won titles as a junior lightweight, lightweight and junior welterweight.



Promoter Dan Goossen will put on the card after signing Mayweather, who has been a free agent since buying out longtime promoter Top Rank for $750,000 following the Judah fight.



Mayweather fought his entire career under Top Rank except for a fight against Sharmba Mitchell last fall. Goossen promoted that one, and is excited to be working with Mayweather again.



"I think it's a great matchup," Goossen said. "The two styles will mesh very well. The talented, flashy fighter in Floyd Mayweather, the pound-for-pound best in the world, who is trying to get that legacy of being one of the greatest against a man who hasn't lost in nine years, who keeps on coming at you with constant pressure, pressure, pressure. It's a fight fan's fight.



"But when you fight someone like Baldomir, you are fighting someone who is not only the linear champion but a guy who can go out there and upset the apple cart. He's done it before. People realize that it's a great fight and it's got intrigue."



Although terms of Mayweather's deal with Goossen were not released, industry sources believe he will make at least $8 million, plus a percentage of pay-per-view profits. Mayweather rejected the same offer from Top Rank to face titlist Antonio Margarito.



Baldomir, 35, who will earn about $1.7 million plus a percentage of pay-per-view profits, got the fight over junior middleweight titlist Cory Spinks. Mayweather would have moved up to 154 pound for that match, one that was heavily criticized in the media when the negotiations came to light.



In addition to so much negative press about a Spinks fight, there were other issues. Spinks, who beat Roman Karmazin July 8 to win the belt, owes Rodney Jones a mandatory fight, and Jones promoter Artie Pelullo was considering legal action if Jones was bypassed in favor of a Spinks-Mayweather bout.



It was enough to cause Mayweather's handlers a big enough headache that they decided to finalize a deal with Baldomir, which is the more fan-friendly fight anyway.



"I think when everything got down to the nitty gritty, one of the factors was that Spinks obviously had a mandatory due with Rodney Jones and we really didn't want to get into a situation where there were legal ramifications," Goossen said. "They were neck and neck all the way through the process, but Baldomir was the direction that gave Floyd the ability to fight someone everyone wanted to see him in the ring with."



The Mayweather camp also had conversations with handlers for former junior welterweight champ Kostya Tszyu, who hasn't fought since losing his title to Ricky Hatton 14 months ago. Those talks, however, quickly died when it became apparent that Tszyu wasn't going to fight for the rest of the year.
Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...586&type=story

Here is a rough recap of the fight economics:


PPV revenues: 340K buys = $17MM

Gate revenues = 2.5MM

Endorsements = 750K

Casino site fee = 2MM

Total est fight revenues = $23 MM

Mayweather Pay = $10+MM
Baldomir Pay - $2MM
Undercard = $1MM (est)

Remainder was HBO, promoter (GTP), arena costs, security, marketing costs.

Those were the fight economics. PBF shared in the PPV total, and the fight did well. As you can see above, it was a profitable fight.

It was because of the strong performance of that fight vs a no-name , that Oscar made PBF an offer that same week.

[Azteca]

Here is a rough recap of the fight economics:


PPV revenues: 340K buys = $17MM

Gate revenues = 2.5MM

Endorsements = 750K

Casino site fee = 2MM

Total est fight revenues = $23 MM

Mayweather Pay = $10+MM
Baldomir Pay - $2MM
Undercard = $1MM (est)

Remainder was HBO, promoter (GTP), arena costs, security, marketing costs.

Those were the fight economics. PBF shared in the PPV total, and the fight did well. As you can see above, it was a profitable fight.

It was because of the strong performance of that fight vs a no-name , that Oscar made PBF an offer that same week.

K. Thanks for that.

All it proves is that you were lying when you said he made 10 million. He made 8 million GUARANTEED money just like he would of with Margarito.

[Fox McCloud]

K. Thanks for that.

All it proves is that you were lying when you said he made 10 million. He made 8 million GUARANTEED money just like he would of with Margarito.

Well in addition to proving that he had his facts wrong off the top of his head, it proves your theory about him ducking Margarito wrong too.

Not to mention, it proves that you don't do your homework before talking ****.

[Azteca]

So listen... can you read?

It says, Mayweather made 8 million, in the article, straight up.

And now you are going to tell me that Margarito is a PPV star compared to Baldomir? No one gives a **** about either dude.

And where is your retort that the WBO belt is more legitimate than The Ring championship?

Dude. How hard is it to get.

The public was demanding the fight for weeks upon weeks for Mayweather to fight Margarito. Arum made a deal of 8 million guaranteed money. Which was the highest he would of made at any time in his career.

Only after Baldomir beat Gatti did he decide to take on Baldomir. How many months after that was it????

8 million
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1 million
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7 million

"if it makes dollars, it makes cents"

[deevel79]

"Fraud" Mayweather Jr... A "Pretty Boy" Needs to grow into a Man
By Johnny Benz (July 19, 2006)
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Floyd Mayweather Jr., or "FRAUD" as so many these days are penning him, feels he is the cream of the crop and so popular that he can afford to over look 8 Million dollars by avoiding Antonio Margarito. Mayweather's who's own career is littered with no name and unpopular boxers and has yet to be in a career defining fight, blows off the Margarito challenge.

So sure of himself, Mayweather is quoted by Keith Idec of NorthJersey.com, saying "As far as Antonio Margarito, don't nobody even know him. But then they could tell you who Floyd Mayweather is, they can tell you who Shane Mosley is, they can tell you who Oscar De La Hoya is. (Margarito is) going to have to beat a couple more known names
to get some recognition, so we can have a bigger fight down the line."

I highly doubt anyone outside of Boxing and the Mayweather's home state of Detroit know who he is. At this point in his career it is a joke for him to even mention his popularity up there with De la Hoya or Mosley. Those guys actually have had fights with fighters who had pulses. I have yet to see any of them turn down 8 million dollars to fight a worthy challenge. It's not about PPV, its about money, and the 8 million was already on the table! No tickets had yet been sold! If Mayweather was such a draw like he wants us to believe he is, the 8 million dollars and his name on the card should be more than enough to make this a huge bout. If Margarito is such a Nobody as Mayweather would like you to believe...then remember this, Mayweather is a fighter who has made a career fighting nobodies. He has fought nobodies and never made 8 million dollars fighting anyone. Yet Margarito is not worthy?! Someone needs to pull the mic away from Pretty "FRAUD" Mayweather, because his excuses are lame, without merit and actually makes him look ******.

Lucky for boxing fans, Margarito himself has had enough of Mayweather's chicken ass ways. "I'm not going to waste another breath talking about Mayweather," said Margarito to NorthJersey.com. "The questions keep coming, but I really don't want to speak about Mayweather anymore. He doesn't want to take the fight. It's not going to happen and I've got to move on with my career."

Well what do we expect? You don't call yourself "Pretty Boy" if you are looking to be a Man.

[deevel79]

It's not Floyd.... it's "FRAUD" Mayweather Jr.
Commentary by Johnny Benz (July 6, 2006)
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Recently while reading the very popular Doug Fischer Mail Bag at MaxBoxing, I came across a worthy nick name for Floyd Mayweather. The name is now circulating the internet quicker than anyone could ever imagine. The name in question featured in Fischer's Mail Bag: FRAUD Mayweather. Such is the speed the nick name has travelled, that If I was a boxer, I just do not think I'd ever want to get on Doug Fischer's bad side. A quick glance at internet message boards will tell you just how fast fans are picking up on calling Floyd, "Fraud" Mayweather Jr.

The reason stems from the simple fact that Floyd is seemingly dodging a worthy opponent in Antonio Margarito to the tune of an 8 million dollar pay day. It seems Floyd, or shall we call him "FRAUD", does not feel Margarito is a worthy challenge and not worth signing on the dotted line for a whopping 8 million dollar pay day. Fans aren't buying it... and let's face it, if Margarito wasn't worthy, then why wouldn't Floyd....err I mean "FRAUD," take the 8 million dollar pay day and take on Margarito. After all, if Margarito isn't worthy, then it should be an easy pay day for "FRAUD" Mayweather Jr. Go on take the money and run should be the logic here if this were the case. Unfortunately it is not.

There is no reason not to take that sort of money and fight Margarito next. Especially since for the time being, Oscar De La Hoya is out of Mayweather's immediate future.

For me personally, the nick name fits well. It almost seems "FRAUD" Mayweather is happy facing lesser challenges for decent dollar. Why else would he choose to face Zab Judah after Judah's worth was put into perspective when Carlos Bladomir clearly dominated Judah just prior to his fight with Mayweather Jr.?

Saying "no" to an 8 million dollar pay day is not only crazy, but in this case shows a fighter to be lacking in wanting to face serious challenges. It seems "FRAUD" is taking a beating in the polls over it too. Many Pound for Pound lists no longer have Mayweather sitting on the top spot. Many are quick to point out he is just not worthy of that placement.


The choice is now up to "FRAUD" Mayweather Jr. He should take a page from Oscar De La Hoya's career. Years ago Oscar gained the nick name of "Chicken" De La Hoya. The name would have stuck with Oscar if it were not for the fact that Oscar seemed to care, and started changing fans and critics' perspectives by taking on Challenges worthy of Fans cheers and critics' praise. No one calls De La Hoya "Chicken" anymore.

Simply not taking an 8 million dollar pay day for reasons not worthy of print, when fans are and critics alike are demanding it... earns one the nick name, "FRAUD."

Until the day Floyd Mayweather Jr takes it upon himself to not only listen to the fans but to take his career in a direction where legends are born, until that day, I am sure the name "FRAUD" Mayweather will stick to him. I can think of 8 million reasons off the top of my head why the nick name "FRAUD" will stick. Personally for the sake of all of us and the sport in general, I hope Mayweather steps up to the plate and proves to all of us he is not "Fraud" Mayweather.

[Azteca]

Well in addition to proving that he had his facts wrong off the top of his head, it proves your theory about him ducking Margarito wrong too.

Not to mention, it proves that you don't do your homework before talking ****.

....lol.

Yeah he really proved me wrong.

He made 8 million guaranteed for the baldomir fight which was the same he would of made with Margarito.