Dios and the rest are in complete denial...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

He fought Baldomir...For a little over 8 million. He made the same amount for fighting Baldomir.

Imagine if Mayweather beat up Margarito? The public would of been demanding a fight with DLH? A fight with Marg would of improved his career...just like it did with Oscar's. Oscar and Leonard could of fought scrubs there entire careers. The public would of bought it....

For a little while. But sooner or later the public wants more.

And Oscar and Leonard eventually gave it to them.

Mayweather made $10.3 million for the Baldomir fight.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I think we all can agree that Margarito was the bigger name in the sport, right? He has a huge mexican following so tons of mexicans would of bought the PPV against Floyd? I'd like to think moreso then it would of with a Floyd- Baldomir fight.

Now he made 8 million plus PPV revenue right for fighting Baldomir right.

Now, do me a favour. Subtract 8 million and 750,000. **** it.

Let's round that off:
Subtract 8 million and 1 million.

What's the return investment???

"If it makes dollars, it makes cents". - Mayweather

The only Mexican fighters with big nums are the cross-over, English-speaking fighters.

Obviously Oscar, and also Fernando.

Nobody else. Period.

Period.

[Wiley Hyena]

The only Mexican fighters with big nums are the cross-over, English-speaking fighters.

Obviously Oscar, and also Fernando.

Nobody else. Period.

Period.

Barrera? Morales? Hello?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Barrera? Morales? Hello?

Again. My statement stands.

Neither barrera nor Morales can carry a PPV event on their own. They had solid nums fighting each other. That is two A-sides. In a huge grudge rivalry that happened to be some of the best fights of the past generation. STILL didn't crack 350k.

When you stick either one vs a B opponent, their numbers go to ****. True Story.

Prove me wrong.

[Wiley Hyena]

Again. My statement stands.

Neither barrera nor Morales can carry a PPV event on their own. They had solid nums fighting each other. That is two A-sides. In a huge grudge rivalry that happened to be some of the best fights of the past generation. STILL didn't crack 350k.

When you stick either one vs a B opponent, their numbers go to ****. True Story.

Prove me wrong.

I'm not going to even try to prove you wrong on that.

Off topic question: Do you think Calzaghe and Kessler would beat Kelly Pavlik? Just interested because of that nut "Ultimateboxa's" thread.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I'm not going to even try to prove you wrong on that.

Off topic question: Do you think Calzaghe and Kessler would beat Kelly Pavlik? Just interested because of that nut "Ultimateboxa's" thread.

Kelly seems to be vulnerable to some boxing. His style is still very raw with the 1-2, 1-1-2.

So I think Calzaghe can box him up. I'm still not sold on MK, so I would take KP to walk MK down.

But CalSlappy has alot of speed, high activity and good angles.

Still not sure why JT didn't circle away from the power hand....

[Wiley Hyena]

Kelly seems to be vulnerable to some boxing. His style is still very raw with the 1-2, 1-1-2.

So I think Calzaghe can box him up. I'm still not sold on MK, so I would take KP to walk MK down.

But CalSlappy has alot of speed, high activity and good angles.

Still not sure why JT didn't circle away from the power hand....

It didn't matter. Pavlik's ferocious jab was the key to that fight. Steward got arrogant and threw his blue chipper in to trade with Pavlik. ******.

Question: Pavlik has a longer reach than Calzaghe. What about Calzaghe makes you think he could survive? (incidentally, I agree totally about Kessler)

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It didn't matter. Pavlik's ferocious jab was the key to that fight. Steward got arrogant and threw his blue chipper in to trade with Pavlik. ******.

Question: Pavlik has a longer reach than Calzaghe. What about Calzaghe makes you think he could survive? (incidentally, I agree totally about Kessler)

Taylor ******ly stayed at the end of KP's power. I think Joe C would be smart enough to step INSIDE of that. KP isn't quick-handed, and he is tall-ish. With very long arms.

Nor would Joe back up into a corner every time he gets hit with a shot.

Taylor kept backing into the ropes/corner vs Winky. I would have thought all that Manny training would be to not do that anymore.

[Wiley Hyena]

Taylor ******ly stayed at the end of KP's power. I think Joe C would be smart enough to step INSIDE of that. KP isn't quick-handed, and he is tall-ish. With very long arms.

Nor would Joe back up into a corner every time he gets hit with a shot.

Taylor kept backing into the ropes/corner vs Winky. I would have thought all that Manny training would be to not do that anymore.

Don't be fooled by the plodding footwork. It makes KP seem slow. His hands are actually very fast. That was the first thing Steward said he underestimated about KP.

So your answer is that Joe Cal could get inside and deal with KP that way. Ok, fair enough.

As to Taylor on the ropes. IMO that wasn't the result of not following instructions. That was the result of the flawed gameplan which was to trade with KP. Steward miscalulated in thinking that Taylor could slip KP's "slow punches". He couldn't because KP has faster hands than they anticipated. Taylor simply lost a battle of strength and had to fall back and ended up in the ropes.

[Azteca]

Mayweather made $10.3 million for the Baldomir fight.

Let's see the numbers for that..