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  • Originally posted by moofo View Post
    Why is that hilarious?
    They are all contenders.
    Much better contenders than Henry Bruseles , Sharmba Mitchell , Arturo Gatti etc....
    A champion is supposed to DEFEND against the top contenders.
    That is the WHOLE POINT OF BOXING.
    You may well be happy with Floyd hanging his gloves up after fighting for a title once but I am not.
    Floyd has a lot to prove yet if he wants to be considered one of the best Welters in his lifetime let alone ever.
    The trouble is his fans are happy for him to shortchange them by only fighting when it suits his pocket.
    He has no real legacy at 140 ,147 or 154.
    There are too many unanswered questions.
    HE IS THE TRUE WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP, he doesn't have to fight Collazo or Cintron in title eliminators and that's the difference. i agree a champion should defend against top contenders, but they aren't it. You should be mad if he chose to fight those green fighters cause that is what they are. Cotto and Mosley I have no problem with, the others are laughable and the fact that fighting those guys proves something to you is even more laughable

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    • Originally posted by moofo View Post
      Hopkins could have chased Roy & Toney up the ladder.
      But he didn't.
      I mean in their respective prime as well.
      Right, but why fight them?

      Roy only beat Hopkins, who was young at the time, and Toney.

      Who did Toney beat? Nunn, but he was miles behind on all the cards, so that was lucky, and some old people, McCallum & Barkley.

      I think Toney did a lot, but seriously, you need to lower your standards about what boxers need to do to become good.

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      • Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
        Come now... we all know that your criteria says they all suck.

        Tarver - Old.
        Winky - Old.
        Calzaghe - Old and hasn't beaten anyone.
        Kessler - Hasn't beaten anyone.
        Dawson - Prospect, meaning, that whoever beats him won't get credit because he wasn't any good to begin with.

        You see why it is frustrating to have people like you downgrade all these fighters' accomplishments? No one can ever win.
        except hatton because he is so great!

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        • Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
          except hatton because he is so great!
          When did I say Hatton was great?
          I thought he was shocking against Urango & Collazo.

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          • Originally posted by moofo View Post
            When did I say Hatton was great?
            I thought he was shocking against Urango & Collazo.
            oK, WELL WHO IS THE BEST P4P today then? cause you knockig everybody else but u cheerleading hatton...

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            • Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
              oK, WELL WHO IS THE BEST P4P today then? cause you knockig everybody else but u cheerleading hatton...

              P4P is nonsense and totally unproveable.
              It is fantasy.
              Too many people obsess over this crap.
              I never cheerleaded Hatton either.
              I said I was a fan of Hattons but I am critical of him like any other fighter.
              Thats the difference between me and most Floyd Mayweather fans.
              They don't see the flaws in his story.

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              • Originally posted by moofo View Post
                P4P is nonsense and totally unproveable.
                It is fantasy.
                Too many people obsess over this crap.
                I never cheerleaded Hatton either.
                I said I was a fan of Hattons but I am critical of him like any other fighter.
                Thats the difference between me and most Floyd Mayweather fans.
                They don't see the flaws in his story.
                I see the flaws in his resume... but you asked if he had fought anyone good. The answer is yes. And there is clearly a reason he fought each and every one of those fights. Yes, Henry Bruseles sucks, but it was a title eliminator to get him closer to Tszyu or Gatti (I can't remember who had the belt at that point). So whatever.

                My problem is that your standards are so high, that you are exclusively critical of fighters. I haven't heard any praise for anyone so far from you (in this thread, I can't remember if I have seen you post elsewhere).

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                • Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View Post
                  I don't even wanna think bout how crazy and twisted this board will go. People have been hating on me for making Kelly Pavlik Appreciation Threads, calling me a nuthugger. I am just really pumped and happy that Pavlik won and did it in impressive fashion. If Floyd KO/TKO's Hatton I gurantee you we will see the most ridiculous nuthugging hate threads that Boxingscene has ever witnessed. Unlike the Pavlik haters who refuse to give him props on his performance, I will man up and give Floyd mad props if he finishes Hatton because Taylor and Hatton are both Elite Grade A fighters
                  Don't worry man, Hatton is going to win. I got a testicle and banishment riding on it. If that pasty little bastard don't come through I'm booking a flight to Manchester. They will know the wrath of a whitey with an attitude!

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                  • Originally posted by moofo View Post
                    P4P is nonsense and totally unproveable.
                    It is fantasy.
                    Too many people obsess over this crap.
                    I never cheerleaded Hatton either.
                    I said I was a fan of Hattons but I am critical of him like any other fighter.
                    Thats the difference between me and most Floyd Mayweather fans.
                    They don't see the flaws in his story.
                    Personally PBF is my favorite fighter, but flawed in his approach to boxing is my take on him. I have been waiting on him to shut Hatton's mouth for well over a year now, and finally he decided to do it. While I admire his technical precision, I must say watching him fight is frustrating at times. I know for a fact that he doesn't put much mustard on his punches for fear of injuring his hands. Not to mention the fact that he has been weight-hoping for the last 4 years, that alone diminishes his punches effectiveness. He has a great chin, but chooses not to get battered for longevity sake, so he uses foot movement to confound his opposition. Sometime frustrating, but I myself am a defense first type of guy, I want to be able to have a conversation in fluent english when my fight days are done. Beause I understand his flaws, it allows me to apprectiate his positives. Perfect, he ain't, and G.O.A.T he ain't but the very best of the crop of boxers today, yeah I'll give him that nod.

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                    • Originally posted by BigDozer260 View Post
                      Personally PBF is my favorite fighter, but flawed in his approach to boxing is my take on him. I have been waiting on him to shut Hatton's mouth for well over a year now, and finally he decided to do it. While I admire his technical precision, I must say watching him fight is frustrating at times. I know for a fact that he doesn't put much mustard on his punches for fear of injuring his hands. Not to mention the fact that he has been weight-hoping for the last 4 years, that alone diminishes his punches effectiveness. He has a great chin, but chooses not to get battered for longevity sake, so he uses foot movement to confound his opposition. Sometime frustrating, but I myself am a defense first type of guy, I want to be able to have a conversation in fluent english when my fight days are done. Beause I understand his flaws, it allows me to apprectiate his positives. Perfect, he ain't, and G.O.A.T he ain't but the very best of the crop of boxers today, yeah I'll give him that nod.


                      Seriously. One can't argue Mayweather intelligence inside the ring. His style is Flawless when it comes to just getting the "W", But boxers are also preformers. Greatness is defines not only in winning but in HOW YOU WIN.

                      If Floyd was some brilliant finisher, I could understand setting up and wearing down the opposition in order to KO them later, but Floyd is just as Happy cruising to a dec victory.

                      To me that is the absolute worst thing to do. After all, whats the point of the fight? Ask yourself this- What if there was no round limit? Would Floyd be what he is without the time limit to save him? How would Floyd have fared in the days of "Fighting till somone couldn't continue.

                      Floyd is a race horse that out runs and picks his opposition to death. That is not appealing to people who pay money to see a FIGHT. HENCE FLOYD CATCHES WELL DESERVED HELL.

                      Hatton, comes to brawl. Will he keep his 0 aslong as Floyd? probably not, but how many people would Fly overseas to watch Floyd fight? Fame is earned by those that do what it takes to create it.

                      Karma is a MOFO, and it is my belief that Floys has alot of negative Karma heading his way come december.

                      Hatton tko10 or sooner!

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