Is Floyd Past His Prime?

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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #161
    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
    ding ding ding. We have a winner.

    and that is how rare it is for that to happen to a top guy.
    Ok, guys it's 3:00 am here. Must turn in. Talk to you tommorrow night after Pavlik knocks out Taylor. Good night.

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    • DIOS DOMINICANO
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      #162
      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
      I don't want to get caught up in the Baldomir thing. My point was that simply pointing to Collazo and Urango is a little bit of a cop out. Hatton won those fights. What is it you're trying to prove? That Hatton can have off nights? I simply point to all his fights to support my contention that he's got more than just a puncher's chance in this fight. I could point to Floyd's bad nights, ie..Oscar, Castillo I. What would I prove? Floyd can have bad nights, too. So what? The issue is Hatton v. Mayweather now.
      My point about those fights is that Hatton can't beat the young, strong guys with his physicality. So, I use THOSE fights as benchmarks of him looking VERY human against decent-to-good fighters who happen to be young.

      Where Hatton looks best is against OLDER guys who can't match his dynamism and stamina.

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      • grayfist
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        #163
        Is PBF past his prime? I don't think it's Ricky who'll help provide the answer.

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        • DIOS DOMINICANO
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          #164
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          Ok, guys it's 3:00 am here. Must turn in. Talk to you tommorrow night after Pavlik knocks out Taylor. Good night.
          Head: Taylor UD.

          Heart: Pavlik TKO 10

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          • Krucial
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            #165
            And it is just that.

            we are all huge boxing fans. We watch a lot (too much) boxing.

            Over the past twenty years, name the top fighters in their prime who got stopped by a bodyshot.

            GO.
            top fighters in their prime
            Oscar De La Hoya....
            ding ding ding. We have a winner.

            and that is how rare it is for that to happen to a top guy.
            De La Hoya prime?no

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            • Unseen
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              #166
              the way ricky fights means he gets hit a lot every round. perhaps he has started to cling onto fighter mroe because of the fact that his face is getting worse. he use to be more springy and not hold as much. i'm not sure but his trainer feels he doesnt have many fights left.

              as for floyld, i think that its ahrder to tell because he last fought an old guy was was kinda inactive.

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              • C.Y.
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                #167
                Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                Well, Floyd left 140, ostensible to make more money. However, what really happened is that had he stayed he would have had to fight Kostya Tszyu. Who could blame him?
                he would of beat zoo

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                • abdiel2k3
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                  #168
                  i think hes pushed himself out his prime as a result of goin up so much weight
                  he could still be as amazing as he use to be
                  before it was wow
                  look at that
                  now its wow remember when hed throw abunch of punches at the guy instead of just one
                  remember when hed make miss while standing right infront of them
                  now he rolls with most or runs away

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                  • *2TOUGH*
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    Over 30 years old. (SFW's age fast)

                    Made a ****LOAD of money. (motivation?)

                    Involved in other activities. (focus?)

                    Almost forty fights. (wear on body)

                    Fighting above his best weights. (physical skills)

                    Recently described his upcoming championship fight as "routine". (hunger?)

                    Has been fighting top guys for TEN YEARS. (still challenged?)

                    Started out very young and spends alot (too much) time in the gym.

                    All of this leads me to believe that he is past BOTH his physical and mental prime. But he has way more than enough to dismantle a little chubby pink man.
                    EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #170
                      No he is not past his prime any more than Ricky Hatton is! There is no way you can gauge it, so there is no way you cant really debate it.
                      You cant measure his speed like in a 100 metres race. And if he did lose a bit of speed he might have got better at other stuff which yoiu again cant gauge accurately.
                      30 is young. Hes got seventy or so more years to live. He is closer to birth than death. He is younger than Joe Cal by 5 years. Younger than BH by 12 years. PBF is as good as he ever was.

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