Pacquiao new p4p?

[Papa Ace]

Up until Floyd loses, Manny Pacquiao will continue to be second P4P.

[Vladimir303]

First of all whoever said that the p4p rankings are based on skill is full of ****.
It's not how skilled you are it's what you do with your skills.

Second, what's up with judghing who is p4p based on KO ratio and records..... This isn't ****ing algebra.


Floyd mayweather is P4P the best and will still be if he beats Hatton. Unless he starts fighting bums and stays undefeated that way he won't lose his Top spot until he losses....plain and simple. Everything he has done has added on to his record in some way positive. When he defeated Baldomir......he defeated the linear recognized welterweight champion....when he defeated Oscar.....he defeated a 6-division champion and at that time WBC 154lb champion which made floyd a 5-division champion. Now he is fighting a Top 10 p4p undefeated Ring magazine jr.welterweight champ in Ricky hatton.

It's the Ring Magazine 140lb champ vs The Ring magazine 147lb champ

The Last Fighter who had a shot at dethroning floyd from his top spot was Winky Wright

See this thread for why: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=120538

[C.Y.]

Just had to put this here for reaction sake.

Time for a new P4P king?
By Karl Freitag
Promoter Bob Arum says if Manny Pacquiao gets by Marco Antonio Barrera on October 6, the Pacman should dislodge Floyd Mayweather as the mythical #1 pound-for-pound fighter. "I think Pacquiao should be considered that (#1 P4P)," Arum told *********.com on a conference call on Monday. "I don't think Floyd Mayweather can beat either Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley and I don't see why anybody would pick Floyd to be a pound-for-pound best fighter in the world."


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Even rival promoter Oscar De La Hoya, who promotes Barrera and is also promoting Mayweather's next fight against Ricky Hatton, agrees Pacquiao would have a claim to P4P supremacy. "[Pacquiao's] definitely the most exciting fighter in the world and there's no arguments that people will call him the best pound for pound fighter in the world," Oscar told *********. "Obviously you have a lot of top fighters who can be the pound for pound fighter, for instance you have Pacquiao, you have Floyd Mayweather, you have guys like Bernard Hopkins, you have fighters like Miguel Cotto....at this point there are so many big fights going on and happening, I believe it's getting more difficult to see who is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world."
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its obvious arum and de la hoya are biased
pacman is a golden boy fighter
and floyd left arum and beat oscar
so let's see floyd is coming off victories against judah and baldomir who were the recognized pound for pound welterweight champs
and then floyd beat oscar de la hoya, a legend and was the wbc super welter champ
now's he getting reading to fight the ring junior welterweight champ and
so far floyd hasnt lost a fight so how would he lose pound for pound status??
pacman fought an old morrales who didnt hold a belt, fought solis or somebody and is fighting an old barrerra who just lost a fight and isnt a champ right now
pacman taking over p4p with a victory over barerra wouldnt make sense
until he loses floyd = p4p #1

[rellik13]

Once #2 and #3 P4P square off. The winner of that will definately dethrown #1. Regardless of Mayweather not losing.

My apoligies for the mixup with the current rankings. The rankings I was looking at was as of Sep 20th. These things do change on a day to day basis.

[Fox McCloud]

Once #2 and #3 P4P square off. The winner of that will definately dethrown #1. Regardless of Mayweather not losing.

My apoligies for the mixup with the current rankings. The rankings I was looking at was as of Sep 20th. These things do change on a day to day basis.

Those weren't The Ring rankings from anytime I can remember though... they didn't change from last week, because I always check it every Tuesday (that is when they update them on the webpage). Whatever, it's not big deal though, I was just correcting for accuracy's sake, not to be a ****.

[Fox McCloud]

Pacman can definitely beat Marquez, it could have happened before if only not for the mistake of one of the judges. Yeah you're right, as of the moment we just have to wait and see the outcome of their fights. Hatton and barrera can pull out big upsets which would change the scenario.

Agreed, the judges mistake did seal that draw... however, I have a hard time believing that there is going to be another round in their rematch with Marquez being knocked down three times. If Marquez had him figured out as good as he did the first fight, it is going to be a damn tough fight for Pacquiao to win.

[Wiley Hyena]

Once #2 and #3 P4P square off. The winner of that will definately dethrown #1. Regardless of Mayweather not losing.

My apoligies for the mixup with the current rankings. The rankings I was looking at was as of Sep 20th. These things do change on a day to day basis.

Floyd probably will not lose his #1 p4p status until, and unless, he loses.
Pacquiao is in the opinion of many, the real king p4p, but nothing will change unless Floyd falls. If Hatton beats Floyd, it should be Pac #1 and Hatton #2 (no way to ignore Hatton's undefeated record if he beats Floyd).

[Fox McCloud]

Floyd probably will not lose his #1 p4p status until, and unless, he loses.
Pacquiao is in the opinion of many, the real king p4p, but nothing will change unless Floyd falls. If Hatton beats Floyd, it should be Pac #1 and Hatton #2 (no way to ignore Hatton's undefeated record if he beats Floyd).

I also have a hard time seeing anyone slide in between Pacquiao and Marquez, unless one of them lose. They drew with each other, and have pretty much cleaned out the division... what's the difference between the two?

I'd say Hatton #4 probably.

Side note: I also think Calzaghe is going to jump quite a bit if he wins, maybe to #5.

[Wiley Hyena]

I also have a hard time seeing anyone slide in between Pacquiao and Marquez, unless one of them lose. They drew with each other, and have pretty much cleaned out the division... what's the difference between the two?

I'd say Hatton #4 probably.

Side note: I also think Calzaghe is going to jump quite a bit if he wins, maybe to #5.

I know it doesn't make much difference in the ring, but Marquez is pretty old, isn't he? It just seems to make a difference when considering p4p (Hopkins aside..IMO shouldn't be in the top ten p4p now).

[kerrminator]

If Pac can get out of the 'old mexican merry-go-round' rut then we might get a chance to see him up against a prime,live opponent for once