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  • #81
    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
    Well you should write a letter to the all the commissions, because I don't think it's actually illegal to avoid punches (or get on a "bike" as you say), but holding and hitting certainly has been deemed illegal.

    My guess is that the referee will allow Mayweather to sprint around the ring if he wants, because, well, you know, it's within the rules.
    Actually there have been fights called no contests when both opponents try and avoid each other. I've seen warnings given by referees for fighters refusing to actually fight.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
      Actually there have been fights called no contests when both opponents try and avoid each other. I've seen warnings given by referees for fighters refusing to actually fight.
      I think throwing punches solves that well enough though, and Floyd does throw punches so... I don't think we will have a problem.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by GodzHand View Post
        what do you mean?
        Floyd uses his forearms as a shield in his opponents face's. He slightly leans on opponents faces with his forearm. When he drops the forearm out of his opponents face, he immediately throws a right hand. Probably the girliest tactic, he does that, then immediately jumps or leans backwards lmao.

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        • #84
          If the referee takes point off Hatton for something he's done in all his other fights...when its never been an issue before...then i'll be very ****ign suprised.

          No ref would be brave enough to question the way he fights. No ref definately will be brave enough to stop the fight if Hatton holds and hits numerous times.

          He will not be penalised. It'll cause to much trouble for teh ref in question.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
            If the referee takes point off Hatton for something he's done in all his other fights...when its never been an issue before...then i'll be very ****ign suprised.

            No ref would be brave enough to question the way he fights. No ref definately will be brave enough to stop the fight if Hatton holds and hits numerous times.

            He will not be penalised. It'll cause to much trouble for teh ref in question.
            Untrue... Floyd had a point taken off for creating space with his elbow against Castillo in their first fight, and he had never been warned for it before. Different referees do different things. It wouldn't be a shock to me if he got a point taken away for holding and hitting.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
              If the referee takes point off Hatton for something he's done in all his other fights...when its never been an issue before...then i'll be very ****ign suprised.

              No ref would be brave enough to question the way he fights. No ref definately will be brave enough to stop the fight if Hatton holds and hits numerous times.

              He will not be penalised. It'll cause to much trouble for teh ref in question.
              I've said this before, but the issue is whether or not the ref will allow them to in-fight. Clinching is not illegal and it can lead to in-fight situations. There's a fine line between holding and punching and a legal clinch that develops into a slugging match. If by the end of the second round the ref is consistently breaking them up quickly, not allowing anything to develop on the inside, then you will know that the fix is in for Mayweather.

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              • #87
                All i'm saying is... the refs are obviously going to be well aware of Hattons style (as they will be big fans of boxing like ourselves).

                Now what i'm saying is.. it is likely that some refs will not like Hattons style of hittings and clinching. If it is one of those refs who dislikes it... will he take points as a matter of principle..or to make an issue of it.

                He'd have to be pretty brave to want to make an issue out of it, on the night of the biggest fight of the year for many.

                As for the other point about PBF being taken a point - PBFs foul was more agressive than excessively clinching. More dangerous too.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
                  All i'm saying is... the refs are obviously going to be well aware of Hattons style (as they will be big fans of boxing like ourselves).

                  Now what i'm saying is.. it is likely that some refs will not like Hattons style of hittings and clinching. If it is one of those refs who dislikes it... will he take points as a matter of principle..or to make an issue of it.

                  He'd have to be pretty brave to want to make an issue out of it, on the night of the biggest fight of the year for many.

                  As for the other point about PBF being taken a point - PBFs foul was more agressive than excessively clinching. More dangerous too.
                  I would be surprised if Hatton was deducted a point for excessive clinching... we are talking about holding and hitting. PBF's foul isn't really worse than holding and hitting. Floyd just pushes off against a fighter's chest, not neck, so it doesn't cut off the air supply or anything.

                  A referee deducting for excessive clinching (unless Hatton is very hurt) is bull****. As long as he is throwing before he grabs, then it's not a huge deal.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by mickeyb View Post
                    All i'm saying is... the refs are obviously going to be well aware of Hattons style (as they will be big fans of boxing like ourselves).

                    Now what i'm saying is.. it is likely that some refs will not like Hattons style of hittings and clinching. If it is one of those refs who dislikes it... will he take points as a matter of principle..or to make an issue of it.

                    He'd have to be pretty brave to want to make an issue out of it, on the night of the biggest fight of the year for many.

                    As for the other point about PBF being taken a point - PBFs foul was more agressive than excessively clinching. More dangerous too.
                    Oh, I agree about the penalty thing. I don't think a ref is going to start penalizing Hatton to enforce his marching orders. That would land him in the dog house with a fight of this magnitude. The ref will thwart Hatton by employing the quick, unnecessary, break up.

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                    • #90
                      proberby. But Hatton wouldn't mind that.

                      As the shorter fighter, Hatton likes being broken from that clinch, as he's automatically left within range without having to work his way in again.

                      Hatton also works from the clinch himself. He'll hold- then push the opposing fighter back and uppercut as the opposing fighter naturally tries to restart the clinch again (as a reaction to the shove).

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