The Stats on Taylor-Pavlik

**ИATAS** · 09-14-2007, 05:14 PM

I'd also point out that Taylor has the better defense and is more athletic.

I'll be cheering for Pavlik though.

Also, I think Taylor has taken some big shots before, so I wouldn't go as far to say his chin is untested. I do recall him getting rocked and appeared to ME that he was hurt against the first Hopkins bout, late in the rounds.

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-14-2007, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by natas206

I'd also point out that Taylor has the better defense and is more athletic.

I'll be cheering for Pavlik though.

Also, I think Taylor has taken some big shots before, so I wouldn't go as far to say his chin is untested. I do recall him getting rocked and appeared to ME that he was hurt against the first Hopkins bout, late in the rounds.

I disagree that Taylor has a better defense. Taylor can be hit. As far as athetisicm goes, that remains to be seen, but I cannot outright deny it.

**ИATAS** · 09-14-2007, 05:20 PM

Yes Taylor can be hit but compared to Pavlik's defense, who took a lot of hard shots against Miranda, I think Taylor clearly is better at avoiding hits. Has better movement and footwork from what I can tell.

I really hope he gets his ass kicked though, I cant stand Taylor for some reason.

**Froch You** · 09-14-2007, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

Pavlik: Taylor:

age: 25 28
height: 6' 2 1/2" 6' 1"
reach: 75" 74"
record: 31-0 28 kos 27-0 17 kos
KO %: 90% 62%
Stance: orthodox orthodox

Neither fighter has ever been knocked down.

Pavlik has the statistical edge.
Taylor has fought more reputable fighters.
Handspeed may slightly favor Taylor, but very close.
Taylor has a better jab. Pavlik has knockout power in both hands.
Pavlik has a proven chin of stone. Taylor's chin is untested.

Odds at fight time projected as 2-1 favoring Taylor (Hyena's projection).

Hyena's pick: Pavlik by KO/TKO.
Rationale: Taylor will eventually engage and lose a power contest.

I agree with you. But Pavlik has been down twice that I know of. Against McKart and that was a slip but ruled a Knockdown because of a punch to the shoulder. I seen the McKart fight on OLN(Versus) but I heard he got knocked down by Fulgencio Zuniga by a left hook. I heard that was also a flash knockdown. So he's never really been put down where he's hurt. I think Taylor's been hurt more in his fights.

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-14-2007, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by shawn1262231

I agree with you. But Pavlik has been down twice that I know of. Against McKart and that was a slip but ruled a Knockdown because of a punch to the shoulder. I seen the McKart fight on OLN(Versus) but I heard he got knocked down by Fulgencio Zuniga by a left hook. I heard that was also a flash knockdown. So he's never really been put down where he's hurt. I think Taylor's been hurt more in his fights.

Officially, Pavlik has never been knocked down.

**Froch You** · 09-14-2007, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Wiley Hyena

Officially, Pavlik has never been knocked down.

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Read that. He's been down but only flash knockdowns. Nothing I would call official. I don't know why on boxingscene's stats it says neither has been down

**Froch You** · 09-14-2007, 05:50 PM

I didn't see the Zuniga fight but Showtime's commentators were saying he got put down by a left hook. I didn't see it so I don't know how hurt he was.

**Wiley Hyena** · 09-14-2007, 05:55 PM

Originally posted by shawn1262231

I didn't see the Zuniga fight but Showtime's commentators were saying he got put down by a left hook. I didn't see it so I don't know how hurt he was.

Well, it must have been waived off as a slip or something because the official record is that Pavlik has never been knocked down. I'm just going by the book. If you want to read more into it, that's your perogative. I don't care.

**Tyson Jones** · 09-14-2007, 05:58 PM

oh yeah , pavlik clearly got put down by a shot but he came back to win. every fighter goes down in their career. ive never seen taylor hurt, seen him tired a few times but never hurt. taylor is going to win this. just because pavlik beat a hard puncher in miranda beens he can beat the best middleweight in the world? some of you guys are kidding yourselves.

The Stats on Taylor-Pavlik