Greatest Middleweight Ever

[Sweet Pete]

My favorite middleweight is marvin hagler, however judging by record I would have to say Monzon. Now I have never seen a Monzon fight so I am gonna judge it by record instead of favoritism and say Monzon, damn is his record impressive!..

Why not have a look at Greb's record? Best in the whole history of boxing.


Delaney x3
Rosenbloom
Walker
Wilson x3
Tunney x2
Loughran x5
Slattery
Flowers
Moody
Downey
Bogash
Gibbons x3
Smith x7
Norfolk
Gunboat Smith x2
McTigue x2
Levinsky x6
M. Gibbons
Meehan x2
Houck x3
Miske x3
Bartfield x4
McGoorty
McCoy x2
Dillon x2
O’Dowd
Chip x2
Crouse
Brennan x3
Clark
Blackburn

[Tuggers1986]

Anybody who says B-Hop are either under 18 years old of have never seen Hagler fight.

Good thread

[Sweet Pete]

Anybody who says B-Hop are either under 18 years old of have never seen Hagler fight.

Good thread

A prime Hopkins in a head to head sense could be argued just as good, but his resume is not as good at all at MW. Hagler outranks him, but in a head to head matchup, that is one I've heard argued from all angles quite well.

A prime Hopkins of say the Johnson fight vs a Hagler of the Sibson fight. What a matchup.

[Thread Stealer]

the ugly boring toothless wonder is a great fighter. let's not deny that.

hopkins lacks the resume at middleweight of some of the other great ones, but he is indeed a special fighter.

[Sweet Pete]

the ugly boring toothless wonder is a great fighter. let's not deny that.

hopkins lacks the resume at middleweight of some of the other great ones, but he is indeed a special fighter.

He's boring now as his body has deteriorated to the point where he relies on his craftiness, experience, and pure boxing skill, but in his prime he had it all.

[Tuggers1986]

A prime Hopkins in a head to head sense could be argued just as good, but his resume is not as good at all at MW. Hagler outranks him, but in a head to head matchup, that is one I've heard argued from all angles quite well.

A prime Hopkins of say the Johnson fight vs a Hagler of the Sibson fight. What a matchup.

yeah, I'm not putting Hopkins down at all. he is unbelievable. Just second to Hagler in the MW all time rankings. Like you said though, both in their prime would be an awesome fight.

[Sweet Pete]

yeah, I'm not putting Hopkins down at all. he is unbelievable. Just second to Hagler in the MW all time rankings. Like you said though, both in their prime would be an awesome fight.

Well not sure about Hopkins being second all time, but otherwise yeah. Monzon in my books rates slightly above Hagler.

1. Greb(feel free to ask or put anyone ahead of him, I understand this pick is a hard one)
2. Monzon
3. Hagler
4. Robinson
5. Hopkins

I would take Hopkins over Robinson head to head believe it or not, being as Robinson was smaller and a better WW than a MW, but his resume, even being past his prime at the weight, was better than Hopkins's easily.

[Jim Jeffries]

He's boring now as his body has deteriorated to the point where he relies on his craftiness, experience, and pure boxing skill, but in his prime he had it all.

Except for great competition (only Roy Jones Jr, who he lost to,) and no Oscar and Tito are not GREAT middleweights.

[Sweet Pete]

Except for great competition (only Roy Jones Jr, who he lost to,) and no Oscar and Tito are not GREAT middleweights.

I know this, which is why, despite his 20 title defenses, I rate him below the other guys, at the #5 spot. Others at MW have better wins as well, such as someone like Fullmer, but in a head to head sense, and in a sense of how he dominated his era(weak as it was) he outranks those guys. As well as on consistency.

[El Dominicano]

SRR ownz Hagler very hard U.D. I see Hagler beating SRR 4 rounds stright cuz SRR probably wondering why the **** he won't go down. Then SRR starts boxing and fighting smart.