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  • EMPOROAR
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    #51
    Floyd cant fight inside. He tries to promote himself and says he can...but he cant. Every time they get inside he throws his elbow in your face and steps out of range. Sorry guys...

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      #52
      Originally posted by EMPOROAR
      Floyd cant fight inside. He tries to promote himself and says he can...but he cant. Every time they get inside he throws his elbow in your face and steps out of range. Sorry guys...
      He can once he gets them tired. He leans on them shoulder to shoulder and hits them over and over again (it looks like the way Castillo and Corrales fought the majority of their first fight). But overall, you are right, Floyd is not the best inside fighter. Floyd also does not have power that complements his skill in other areas. Floyd is a very good fighter, but not exactly the most balanced fighter ever.

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      • EMPOROAR
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        #53
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        He can once he gets them tired. He leans on them shoulder to shoulder and hits them over and over again (it looks like the way Castillo and Corrales fought the majority of their first fight). But overall, you are right, Floyd is not the best inside fighter. Floyd also does not have power that complements his skill in other areas. Floyd is a very good fighter, but not exactly the most balanced fighter ever.
        Alot of fighters can take advantage like Floyd does in certain situations....so I dont really take your point.

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          #54
          Originally posted by EMPOROAR
          Alot of fighters can take advantage like Floyd does in certain situations....so I dont really take your point.
          I was agreeing with you for the most part. The last part said that it isn't his strongest point. It's true, Paulie Malignaggi could look powerful if his opponent is tired enough.

          Complete means balanced, and anyone who says that Floyd's power measures up to his defense has lost their mind.

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          • EMPOROAR
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            #55
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            I was agreeing with you for the most part. The last part said that it isn't his strongest point. It's true, Paulie Malignaggi could look powerful if his opponent is tired enough.

            Complete means balanced, and anyone who says that Floyd's power measures up to his defense has lost their mind.

            yeah. But for real. I view Hopkins and JMM as the better offensive technicians.

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              #56
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              I was agreeing with you for the most part. The last part said that it isn't his strongest point. It's true, Paulie Malignaggi could look powerful if his opponent is tired enough.

              Complete means balanced, and anyone who says that Floyd's power measures up to his defense has lost their mind.
              Jimmy Young looked like a powerhouse.....after he got George Foreman tired.

              Poet

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                #57
                Originally posted by EMPOROAR
                yeah. But for real. I view Hopkins and JMM as the better offensive technicians.
                That is probably 100% true. Floyd is a very good technician, but I think he fights more like Roy Jones, relying on his speed first. The difference is that Floyd has enough technical skill that when that starts to diminish, he won't be done like Jones was.

                Floyd is excellent at defense, speed and movement.

                He is decent at ring generalship and techinical skills.

                He really doesn't have that much power.

                Quite a few holes for a "complete" fighter.

                Obviously a fighter doesn't need to be complete to win though. Why change when it has been working for you?

                Does anyone think Winky Wright would be better served if he had more power? I doubt it.

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                • EMPOROAR
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  That is probably 100% true. Floyd is a very good technician, but I think he fights more like Roy Jones, relying on his speed first. The difference is that Floyd has enough technical skill that when that starts to diminish, he won't be done like Jones was.

                  Floyd is excellent at defense, speed and movement.

                  He is decent at ring generalship and techinical skills.

                  He really doesn't have that much power.

                  Quite a few holes for a "complete" fighter.

                  Obviously a fighter doesn't need to be complete to win though. Why change when it has been working for you?

                  Does anyone think Winky Wright would be better served if he had more power? I doubt it.
                  Dont get me wrong, he is a great offensive fighter but he does not stay in the pocket and trade. He is great because he has great movement to slip in and out of range. I felt he fought like Roy Jones a little bit against Baldomir to try and fake to the fans that he was pleasing them. He would not throw any power shots so he would put his hands down and showboat a little bit.

                  He didn't fool the fans...

                  And as for Winky. He is a volume puncher who uses absolutely no leverage and legs into his punches. Him with power is unreasonable because he is an arm puncher. He wouldn't be nearly as active if he really SAT down on his punches if ya know what i mean.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by EMPOROAR
                    Dont get me wrong, he is a great offensive fighter but he does not stay in the pocket and trade. He is great because he has great movement to slip in and out of range. I felt he fought like Roy Jones a little bit against Baldomir to try and fake to the fans that he was pleasing them. He would not throw any power shots so he would put his hands down and showboat a little bit.

                    He didn't fool the fans...

                    And as for Winky. He is a volume puncher who uses absolutely no leverage and legs into his punches. Him with power is unreasonable because he is an arm puncher. He wouldn't be nearly as active if he really SAT down on his punches if ya know what i mean.
                    Right, I'm just saying, if it's not broke, don't fix it!

                    Complete fighters are good when you find them, but it's not like that is the only way a fighter can be good (to the creator of the thread, not you Emp, I know that's not what you are saying).

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      That is probably 100% true. Floyd is a very good technician, but I think he fights more like Roy Jones, relying on his speed first. The difference is that Floyd has enough technical skill that when that starts to diminish, he won't be done like Jones was.

                      Floyd is excellent at defense, speed and movement.

                      He is decent at ring generalship and techinical skills.

                      He really doesn't have that much power.

                      Quite a few holes for a "complete" fighter.

                      Obviously a fighter doesn't need to be complete to win though. Why change when it has been working for you?

                      Does anyone think Winky Wright would be better served if he had more power? I doubt it.
                      i might agree with that.. floyd is kind of an akward fighter..with very little power when hes not leaning foward... id love to see him fight pacqiou or mosley

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