Whitaker revisionism

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Pernell is too high on the list, and why is Tito like 20 spots ahead of ODLH?

That was a 2002 list. Ring Magazine writers voted.

So, ODLH and Tito would have changed...but not Pernell.

At that time, Oscar had losses to Tito and SSM. Tito had one loss to a HoF middleweight.

It was tough to rank Oscar higher, I guess. He was, at best, the 3rd best WW in his own era.

[Lazy Liberal]

ODLh defeated Quartey,Whitaker and Trinidad. Tito beat Carr,campas and Whitaker, so why is odlh the 3rd best and who is the other guy.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

ODLh defeated Quartey,Whitaker and Trinidad. Tito beat Carr,campas and Whitaker, so why is odlh the 3rd best and who is the other guy.

History reflects that Trinidad beat Oscar. And Shane beat Oscar. Both at WW.

I feel that Oscar took seven rounds vs. Trinidad, but on the record, he lost.

[Lazy Liberal]

That was a 2002 list. Ring Magazine writers voted.

So, ODLH and Tito would have changed...but not Pernell.

At that time, Oscar had losses to Tito and SSM. Tito had one loss to a HoF middleweight.

It was tough to rank Oscar higher, I guess. He was, at best, the 3rd best WW in his own era.

If you are saying that Pernell was the best out of the three, then that is hard to justify. Pernell's highlights at WW are the controversial draw with Chavez and the Mcgirt fights. If you are saying Mosley is , then you i question you.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

If you are saying that Pernell was the best out of the three, then that is hard to justify. Pernell's highlights at WW are the controversial draw with Chavez and the Mcgirt fights. If you are saying Mosley is , then you i question you.

No, sir. I am not saying that. I realize that PW's best work was below WW.

I am simply answering why I think Ring would have ranked Tito above Oscar. Tito had zero losses. Oscar had two losses at WW.

It is hard to rank a guy highly among ATG's if he wasn't even the best in his own weight class in his own era. Nahmean?

[Lazy Liberal]

No, sir. I am not saying that. I realize that PW's best work was below WW.

I am simply answering why I think Ring would have ranked Tito above Oscar. Tito had zero losses. Oscar had two losses at WW.

It is hard to rank a guy highly among ATG's if he wasn't even the best in his own weight class in his own era. Nahmean?

Fair enough. Who is the other guy that ranks over ODLH at WW if it ain't Pernell in your opinion.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Fair enough. Who is the other guy that ranks over ODLH at WW if it ain't Pernell in your opinion.

Ummmm, Shane Mosley and Tito Trinidad.... the two guys that 'beat" him.

[Lazy Liberal]

Ummmm, Shane Mosley and Tito Trinidad.... the two guys that 'beat" him.

Ugh, Shane Mosley who has only one top notch victory in his career. Yes, he beat Oscar (115-113) but who else did he beat at welter. He didn't fight Tito,Quartey or Pernell. If by beating Oscar, that ranks him ahead of Oscar who fought everyone of relavance at WW, then that speaks volumes of Oscar as a fighter and his accomplishments. Tito never beat Oscar. Good Night.

[kayjay]

I didn't mean to discredit his unbelievable accomplishments at lightweight and welterweight.

Dios, I'm aware that he was a top 5 fighter in the game for a long time. That much isn't disputable. All I meant is that he is on par with people like DLH, Tito, JCC, James Toney, etc. Not ranks above them, and not in the class of a Duran, Leonard, or (in my opinion) Roy Jones

He had a great career, but was beaten convincingly by a bigger, younger Oscar and then nearly shutout by trinidad. That was at the end, sure, but when he fought Oscar he was younger than Oscar was against Mayweather, and thatfight was not nearly as close as Mayweather-Oscar fight

[SnoopySmurf]

I had Whitaker losing only to Tito Trinidad for his entire career (before retiring and coming back only to lose).

I just don't see Whitaker losing that fight to Oscar. At worst, it's a draw.

As usual, Lampley was calling "punches" for Oscar that were all misses. ****in' cheerleader he was.