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  • #21
    Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
    Maybe that was a poor choice of words; I would say mistreated is the better term. In any event, the intent is the factor, I think, and the severvity of the 'mistreatment' or 'abuse.'

    Another argument against dog fighting is the unintended consequences of raising dogs to be vicious and brutal. People are frequently attacked in the inner city of Boston by these dogs because they trained to bite and attack. This is also a public safety issue...
    have you seen Bulldogging? That is when the cowboy jumps off the horse and grabs the calf by the neck and twists his head/neck, thereby causing the calf to flip over. That is the INTENT of that sport.

    Is that mistreatment....or abuse?



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    • #22
      Originally posted by tysonjones View Post
      dogs by nature have a chemical imbalance that makes their instincts much more attacking than humans. i agree than some dogs can be made more vicious but dogs are natural that way, now you can breed them to be less but you can never take those instincts away from them. im not saying dog killing dogs isnt wrong, im just saying i would rather them kill out its on race before it tries to get us humans down. their being way to hard on a man who didnt hurt a human. based on what other humans have done to other humans. its contradictory like someone above said.
      I'm sorry but this post is utterly moronic. "Get us humans down?" What the hell does that mean; dogs are out conspiring to take over the earth? Have some sense man...

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      • #23
        Why dont you have a little knowledge and try to understand what I mean instead of jumping on a bandwagon and just looking to critisize or make yourself feel better. But if you must have to have it broken down. Even today on the news a see where a dog has killed a women, it broke into the house and killed the women. Recenly my cousin was killed by a pit bull just because he was outside playing basketball in his driveway. I do not agree with animals like this killing innocent human beings. And as much as i dont agree with animals killing other animals, thats the way our world has been functioning throughout its whole existance.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BostonGuy View Post
          Wow, what B.S. from RJJ. Vick didn't understand that fighting dogs to the death or near death was wrong? Or that executing dogs in an inhumane way was serious?...


          ....Just more proof of what an idiot RJJ is. Always talking out of his ass. RJJ probably still fights his ****s and still gets some **** on the side as well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
            have you seen Bulldogging? That is when the cowboy jumps off the horse and grabs the calf by the neck and twists his head/neck, thereby causing the calf to flip over. That is the INTENT of that sport.

            Is that mistreatment....or abuse?



            I don't know what it is really. I've seen it, but I'm not sure that the animal is hurt. And the intent is to take the animal down, as you stated. Not inflict pain or death on it...

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            • #26
              Understand what Roy is saying.

              Originally posted by PBDS View Post
              ....Just more proof of what an idiot RJJ is. Always talking out of his ass. RJJ probably still fights his ****s and still gets some **** on the side as well.
              PBDS,

              Roy was not saying that it wasn't serious. Roy was saying that VICK did not understand the seriousness.

              And Roy is right. Vick bought the house and has been doing this for six years. And made little to no effort to conceal what he was doing. Clearly, Vick isn't a smart guy who understood the gravity of the situation. Would anybody who is right-thinking put a $117 million contract in jeopardy over some dog-fighting?

              Roy isn't condoning the behaviour. He is simply saying what Vick's mindset was.

              You are giving Roy unjustified criticism.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by tysonjones View Post
                Why dont you have a little knowledge and try to understand what I mean instead of jumping on a bandwagon and just looking to critisize or make yourself feel better. But if you must have to have it broken down. Even today on the news a see where a dog has killed a women, it broke into the house and killed the women. Recenly my cousin was killed by a pit bull just because he was outside playing basketball in his driveway. I do not agree with animals like this killing innocent human beings. And as much as i dont agree with animals killing other animals, thats the way our world has been functioning throughout its whole existance.
                Alot of dogs attacks in my area are because the dogs are vicious and are trained by their owners to be that way. This is a dangerous by-product of dog fighting. It should be condemned..

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View Post
                  PBDS,

                  Roy was not saying that it wasn't serious. Roy was saying that VICK did not understand the seriousness.

                  And Roy is right. Vick bought the house and has been doing this for six years. And made little to no effort to conceal what he was doing. Clearly, Vick isn't a smart guy who understood the gravity of the situation. Would anybody who is right-thinking put a $117 million contract in jeopardy over some dog-fighting?

                  Roy isn't condoning the behaviour. He is simply saying what Vick's mindset was.

                  You are giving Roy unjustified criticism.

                  ....All of the houses were painted jet black so they wouldn't be seen at night by helicopters checking out a dog fighting tip. The dogs were destroyed instead of taken to the pound as to not arouse su****ion. Everything they did was based on concealing the whole deal. Hell, it took forever to get enough evidence to indict him. That doesn't happen when people break the law in plain view and they don't think they are doing something wrong.

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                  • #29
                    Bottom line is, they are treating Vick like he killed a human or something. He killed dogs. fine him, probation, community service, even a few months in jail, but over a year in federal prison is ridiculous.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by raysan View Post
                      Bottom line is, they are treating Vick like he killed a human or something. He killed dogs. fine him, probation, community service, even a few months in jail, but over a year in federal prison is ridiculous.
                      It wasn't just 'killing dogs,' Vick was running a criminal enterprise...

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