Were Tszyu and Castillo Shot When Hatton Fought Them?

[Tysonisgod]

Both were shot, and they were shot IMO before the ricky fights, Castilo was shot after the second Corrales fight, on the slide after the first it was a huge take on his body and future in boxing IMO and Zoo ive PERSONALLY never seen what the big deal was with him, seen almost all of his fights, well everyone i could find on the net or have fights on tape in my house and personal i think ricky would have beat him if he was shot or not, but he was and ricky did

[sallycinnamon]

this is something that annoys me in all sport. when two teams or people who are supposed to be at the top of there game(or some what close to it) face off and the the one team/person dominates the contest, why does it always come down to the loser being shot or injured or what ever excuse. why is the reason of such one sidedness not stated, as what i think is the real reason in most cases, that the winner was just to good at that time and did not let the loser get into there usual rythem. for me 9 times out of ten i feel that the better team/person just got it right that night and the inadequesie of the loser is solely down to how good the winner was.

[wmute]

You need statistics to have statistical inference, not a subjective contention that Castillo was not past his best (because this is not a question of whether he is past his best) but "shot" which I would loosely define as being so far beyond his best that he would be considered nothing more than an opponent for the padding of the records of prospects. Castillo would likely defeat most Junior Welterweights as it stands today, an assertion backed up by the Ring Magazine who still rank him sixth at 140.

Ring magazine rankings are opinions.

What happens in the ring is data.

Statistics doesnt need physical measures, there is such thing as qualitative data (anything that can be ranked). Clearly if a fighter is in his prime or past it is a qualitative concept, and inference on it can be based on qualitative data.

If you have seen Castillo fighting before and after Corrales you would notice a big difference in worse. This is what I am talking about, and it clearly supports the hypothesis that Castillo is either past it or hardly a force at 140. Nothing on earth, measurable or observable backs up the claim "Castillo could beat everyone else at 140". Except PAST performances at 135.

[eric maldonado]

hatton didn't dominate zoo on the press scorecard the fight was even

[ThaHorseman]

Kostya wasn't at his best, but he was still a factor at 140. Castillo on the other hand was done. I almost turned off my TV when I saw Castillo swing wildly and just about fall on his face 20 seconds into the fight.

[drvooh]

Tszyu was ranked p4p #3 at the time, is this when a fight loses he becomes shot thread? would Castillo of been shot if the fight went 12 rounds and Hatton didn't land that body shot?.

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[Mozza]

How can anyone who watched Hatton v Tszyu seriously claim that he was shot? That is a ****ing joke and I have to question whether the people who have said that Tszyu was shot actually watched the fight.

[Run]

Neither fighter was shot.

They were clearly past their primes, but not done. Shot would be the version of Roberto Duran that fought William Joppy.



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[Fox McCloud]

Neither fighter was shot.

They were clearly past their primes, but not done. Shot would be the version of Roberto Duran that fought William Joppy.

Alright then... my question to you. What respected boxer can Castillo now beat in his weight class?

[TRUE WARRIOR]

Alright then... my question to you. What respected boxer can Castillo now beat in his weight class?

castillo could beat anyone at 140. give him a few fights to adjust to the division and i think he would beat hatton.