HAHA! Who are these Floyd victims?!! Only recognize DLH, Gatti!!??

**Allucard** · 08-18-2007, 01:38 AM

Notice they were champions. PBF, as mad as it makes you, doesn't fight who YOU want him to. He fights for legacy. And money, of course. So what better than take the belts? Opinions on who was the better fighter of each era will vary, who was the champion will be written and never to be changed. That's why he moved all way tru 130 to 154 (last fight) defeating all champions.

**Easton Assassin** · 08-18-2007, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by Allucard

Notice they were champions. PBF, as mad as it makes you, doesn't fight who YOU want him to. He fights for legacy. And money, of course. So what better than take the belts? Opinions on who was the better fighter of each era will vary, who was the champion will be written and never to be changed. That's why he moved all way tru 130 to 154 (last fight) defeating all champions.

Perfect answer. Take up for a guy that dodges any meaningful fights and ****s the sport for millions in the process! Yeah, belts mean somthing to fair weathered fans, but true boxing loyalist know the truth behind those belts.

**heat27** · 08-18-2007, 02:51 AM

lol @ Judah (crackbaby issues)

**Fox McCloud** · 08-18-2007, 02:56 AM

Originally posted by Undocumented

Where is the legacy!? Gatti (shot) DLH (old) Baldomir (whatever) Judah (crackbaby issues) Castillo (beat floyd) Where is the legacy!? Sho me my *****s????

2007
May 5 -- Oscar De La Hoya, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Jr. Middleweight Title)

2006
Nov. 4 -- Carlos Baldomir, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Welterweight Title)
Apr. 8 -- Zab Judah, Las Vegas, NV, W 12 *RECAP*
(Won IBF Welterweight Title)

2005
Nov. 19 -- Sharmba Mitchell, Portland, OR, TKO 6 *RECAP*
June 25 -- Arturo Gatti, Atlantic City, NJ, TKO 6 *RECAP*
(Won WBC Light Welterweight Title)
Jan. 22 -- Henry Bruseles, Miami, FL, TKO 8 *RECAP*

2004
May 22 -- DeMarcus Corley, Atlantic City, NJ, W 12 *RECAP*

2003
Nov. 1 -- Phillip N'Dou, Grand Rapids, Michigan, TKO 7 *RECAP*
(Retained WBC lightweight title)
Apr. 19 -- Victoriano Sosa, Fresno, CA, W 12
(Retained WBC lightweight title)

2002
Dec. 7 -- Jose Luis Castillo, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC lightweight title)
Apr. 20 -- Jose Luis Castillo, Las Vegas, W 12
(Won WBC lightweight title)

2001
Nov. 10 -- Jesus Chavez, San Francisco, California, TKO 10
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)
May 26 -- Carlos Hernandez, Grand Rapids, Michigan, W 12
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)
Jan. 20 -- Diego Corrales, Las Vegas, TKO 10
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)

2000
Oct. 21 -- Emanuel Burton, Detroit, Michigan, TKO 9
Mar. 18 -- Goyo Vargas, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)

1999
Sept. 11 -- Carlos Gerena, Las Vegas, TKO 7
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)
May 22 -- Justin Juuko, Las Vegas, KO 9
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)
Feb. 17 -- Carlos Rios, Grand Rapids, Michigan, W 12 *RECAP*
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)

1998
Dec. 19 -- Angel Manfredy, Miami, TKO 2
(Retained WBC super featherweight title)
Oct. 3 -- Genaro Hernandez, Las Vegas, TKO 8
(Captured WBC super featherweight title)
June 14 -- Tony Pep, Atlantic City, W 10
Apr. 18 -- Gustavo Cuello, Los Angeles, W 10
Mar. 23 -- Miguel Melo, Ledyard, Connecticut, TKO 3
Feb. 28 -- Sam Girad, Atlantic City, KO 2
Jan. 9 -- Hector Arroyo, Biloxi, Mississippi, TKO 5

1997
Nov. 20 -- Angelo Nunez, Los Angeles, TKO 3
Oct. 14 -- Felipe Garcia, Boise, Idaho, KO 6
Sept. 6 -- Luis Leija, El Paso, Texas, KO 2
July 12 -- Jesus Chavez, Biloxi, Mississippi, TKO 5
June 14 -- Larry O'Shields, San Antonio, Texas, W 6
May 9 -- Tony Duran, Las Vegas, TKO 1
Apr. 12 -- Robert Giepert, Las Vegas, TKO 1
Mar. 12 -- Kino Rodriguez, Grand Rapids, TKO 1
Feb. 1 -- Edgar Ayala, Chula Vista, California, KO 2
Jan. 18 -- Jerry Cooper, Las Vegas, TKO 1

1996
Nov. 30 -- Reggie Sanders, Albuquerque, New Mexico, W 4
Oct. 11 -- Roberto Apodaca, Las Vegas, KO 2

Well... I would say his legacy is probably somewhere the time when he fought in the 130 pound weight class. I mean, he did fight 27 out of 38 fights there, and he beat some great fighters there, such as Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales and Jesus Chavez. There are some boxers that have their legacy defined at their original weight class. Someone said something about this guy being really good at lightweight, and still good at other weights, but not quite as good. I don't know if you've heard of him though, his name is like Roberto Duran or something like that.

Regardless, even if those fighters that he has fought at the upper weightclasses aren't grade A fighters, it's not like that was the public perception when he signed those fights. N'dou was majorly hyped as a badass before Floyd fought him. All of his fights at 140 were setting up for Gatti or fighting Gatti, which was a career move to get himself onto the PPV scene, which worked pretty damn well, don't you think? There was no discussion about Zab Judah being shot when Floyd fought him... the perception of him at that time was that he came off a bad night against Baldomir and he looked spectacular when he knocked Cory Spinks out the fight before. His fight against Baldomir was not bad either, because a lot of people thought Carlos Baldomir was the real deal, and had a realistic chance to win that fight. Even though a lot of this **** has since been proven ridiculous, it's not like Floyd had the luxury of peering into the future and see that these fighters were going to have their careers drop dead.

By the way, I don't give a **** how you scored Mayweather-Castillo I, Mayweather won the second fight clearly, so that should probably erase most of the doubt about who was the better fighter between the two. The first fight is super ****ing close, and the second fight is not all that close for Floyd... how are you going to tell me that Castillo got the better of those two fights?

**tykilroy** · 08-18-2007, 03:59 AM

Take the Delahoya win off because Delahoya won that fight by 1 round.

**eazy_mas** · 08-18-2007, 04:03 AM

I dont see many 5-time champion do I?

**frankpaganini** · 08-18-2007, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by eazy_mas

I dont see many 5-time champion do I?

well did you forget de la hoya?

6 time champion in 5 weight classes...

mayweather (in my opinion) couldnt even beat oscar past his prime (ie. May 5th).

i agree with the guy who posted above you...i had de la hoya infront after 12 rounds (115-113).

So dont act like mayweather is some supernatural god.

he's a great fighter and does have a legacy BUT dont go washing his balls for him.

**eazy_mas** · 08-18-2007, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by frankpaganini

well did you forget de la hoya?

6 time champion in 5 weight classes...

mayweather (in my opinion) couldnt even beat oscar past his prime (ie. May 5th).

i agree with the guy who posted above you...i had de la hoya infront after 12 rounds (115-113).

So dont act like mayweather is some supernatural god.

he's a great fighter and does have a legacy BUT dont go washing his balls for him.

well the three judges saw it a win asn many people in BS saw it a win as well as Oscar saw it a win.

**squealpiggy** · 08-18-2007, 07:20 AM

well the three judges saw it a win

Two judges saw it a win. De La Hoya was one round on one card away from a draw according to official scores.

HAHA! Who are these Floyd victims?!! Only recognize DLH, Gatti!!??