Hagler would demolish all current MW's.

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  • wmute
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    #41
    Originally posted by adamk1304
    i'm not going to bother trying to argue with you, you're obviously another fan who's stuck in the past.
    translation to english: I got no answer to your logical arguments

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    • wmute
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      #42
      Originally posted by sweet pea 50
      A little hyperbole on my part. I got a liitle carried away. Prime Roy could give anybody a tough fight. But I see Hagler tracking him down and putting a hurting on Roy. B-Hop would see all his little tricks and tatics go by the way side as soon as he hit Hagler... and all Hagler would do is smile.
      Hagler could win against both, not easily at all. that's my point.

      I personally think the dumb, stalking, ubermacho version of Hagler (Mugabi, Leonard) would lose to both, but late 70-early 80s Hagler could very well get the job done. (especially against Jones, pressuring would not really work from a MW, IMO, because Jones' one punch power at 160 was litereally terrifying)

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      • adamk1304
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        #43
        Originally posted by wmute
        translation to english: I got no answer to your logical arguments
        So having close fights against two future hall of famers isn't an accomplishment in your eyes? whatever you say.

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        • MikeTysonJr
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          #44
          Roy Jones Jr Are you ****ing kidding me. Hagler could come in at 160 and roy at 175 and hagler would bend him over **** his ass then ko him. My god RJJ has one of the worst chins off all time and is the most overrated bum of all time because he built a huge record on belts and dodged to many people to count.

          How do you think hagler would do vs Tarver or Glen Johnson.

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            #45
            Originally posted by wmute
            as well as he did? 2-0-1 officially and 1-2-0 in reality?

            against a smaller 35 year old man, and against a 40 years old Hopkins throwing 3 punches per round.

            Coupled with his not being able to shine against jr. middleweights and welterweights, you can surely see the mark of greatness very clearly.
            And where would be the talent 160 is oozing? Pavlik with one relevant win in his entire career?
            I see you're quick to point this out yet completely ignore the fact that hagler's best wins were over a former lightweight and a former welterweight.

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              #46
              Originally posted by MikeTysonJr
              Roy Jones Jr Are you ****ing kidding me. Hagler could come in at 160 and roy at 175 and hagler would bend him over **** his ass then ko him. My god RJJ has one of the worst chins off all time and is the most overrated bum of all time because he built a huge record on belts and dodged to many people to count.

              How do you think hagler would do vs Tarver or Glen Johnson.
              how is he an overrated bum? very ****** post, he beat great fighters like Toney and Hopkins, and he never got beat in his prime and everyone knows it, RJJ in 175 would demolish Hagler.

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              • bestboxingonly
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                #47
                was teh real deal... Hagler was pure brutal and yea prolly my all time greatest mw.
                Last edited by bestboxingonly; 08-02-2007, 03:42 PM.

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                • wmute
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by adamk1304
                  I see you're quick to point this out yet completely ignore the fact that hagler's best wins were over a former lightweight and a former welterweight.
                  By 1984 when Hagler started facing Duran, Hearns, Mugabi, Leonard had alrady cleaned out MW in spectacular fashion. (and he did that almost twice, before and after being champ).

                  Even if you want to compare Ouma and Spinks to Duran, Hearns, Mugabi and Leonard (LOL at the idea). Hagler looked much better against those 4 than Taylor did against the previous two.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by boxingfan420
                    Every time I see the Hagler Hearns fight I think "god damn, Hagler was a lion. When is the last time anyone in the MW division came into a fight with another champion and demolished him the way Hagler took out Hearns?

                    Have you ever seen BHop, Wnky, Taylor, or anyone of there peers come out with all guns blazing like that?
                    How about Tito vs Hopkins? Before that fight many people had Tito at the top of their p4p list and that fight turned out to be nothing but pure domination. I know it wasn't as short as hagler hearns but Bhop destroyed an all time champ I thought.

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                    • Hydro
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by boxingfan420
                      Every time I see the Hagler Hearns fight I think "god damn, Hagler was a lion. When is the last time anyone in the MW division came into a fight with another champion and demolished him the way Hagler took out Hearns? I meant it was NON-STOP till someone went down.
                      G-Man fought like that. He was more consistently aggressive than Hagler, who usually was more patient.

                      That may have been in part because Gerald wasn't as skilled as Hagler.

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