Could a Heavyweight be crowned a P4P #1?

[wmute]

lol that's like saying whichever strawweight knocks out all the others should be p4p #1. heavyweights are a joke. do you call the least dorky out of a bunch of nerds a cool kid? no ****in way.

wtf? I would have been cool with finito close to the top of p4p.

[AKATheMack]

Actually p4p Wlad is a lot faster than guys in the smaller weight divisions for 6'6" 240lbs he is extremely quick

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a natural heavyweight i say NO! but if it is a guy like Holyfield or someone who comes up from lower weight classes winning on the way to heavyweight and winning there, then i would say YES.........


pound for pound is for guys who fight outside there natural weight class. and to be specific, moving out of their natural weight class to fight bigger guys.

that is what pound for pound means. to me at least, i'm sure other people have different views on what pound for pound is.........

[wmute]

a natural heavyweight i say NO! but if it is a guy like Holyfield or someone who comes up from lower weight classes winning on the way to heavyweight and winning there, then i would say YES.........


pound for pound is for guys who fight outside there natural weight class. and to be specific, moving out of their natural weight class to fight bigger guys.

that is what pound for pound means. to me at least, i'm sure other people have different views on what pound for pound is.........

i would agree with you, but b-hop was p4p without ever wondering out of 160

[Panamaniac]

p4p type heavyweights = Tyson, Holyfield, Clay. Their weight and size was clearly not a factor in their greatness. Tyson was not big but had imposing speed and strength. Holyfield was always outpowered and undersized but won with unmatchable heart and boxing savy. Clay had a nice combo of sting, speed, and boxing skills.

Who's Clay?!

Are you serious? Kids these days

I'm no kid. I'm probably old enough to be your father. See below...

Muhammad Ali.

I know damn well who he meant by "Clay." The question (who's Clay?) was strictly rhetorical in my subtle way of asking Lance Uppercut why is he referring to Ali by his renounced "slave" name. Would you refer to Abdul-Jabbar as Alcindor? (yet another rhetorical question)

[jamesbrown]

of course if Roy Jones would have fought a couple of more times in heavy he would be p4p/heavyweight champ

[Panamaniac]

a natural heavyweight i say NO! but if it is a guy like Holyfield or someone who comes up from lower weight classes winning on the way to heavyweight and winning there, then i would say YES.........


pound for pound is for guys who fight outside there natural weight class. and to be specific, moving out of their natural weight class to fight bigger guys.

that is what pound for pound means. to me at least, i'm sure other people have different views on what pound for pound is.........

Regardless of your views or that of other people, the fact is that the term "pound-for-pound" means excellence (of a given fighter) without regard to weight class. Whether a fighter has fought in multiple weight classes or not, is totally irrelevant. The (#4#) designation is reserved for a fighter who is considered to be the best in all of boxing. Period.

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i would agree with you, but b-hop was p4p without ever wondering out of 160

true, true, but in his defense he did fight guys that dropped down from super middle weight and guys that dropped from light heavyweight, but those fighters toggled around those weight classes anyways.

but panamaniac summed it up nice, and made his point better than i could articulate..............

Regardless of your views or that of other people, the fact is that the term "pound-for-pound" means excellence (of a given fighter) without regard to weight class. Whether a fighter has fought in multiple weight classes or not, is totally irrelevant. The (#4#) designation is reserved for a fighter who is considered to be the best in all of boxing. Period.

yes, that better sums it up, you're right. i was thinking more along the lines of weight and struggle for the fighter, but you nailed it.

[Lance Uppercut]

I know damn well who he meant by "Clay." The question (who's Clay?) was strictly rhetorical in my subtle way of asking Lance Uppercut why is he referring to Ali by his renounced "slave" name. Would you refer to Abdul-Jabbar as Alcindor? (yet another rhetorical question)

His "slave" name? You mean the one his mother and father gave him?

To quote one of the greatest comedies in american history, "Coming to America"- "His momma named him Clay, so I'm calling him Clay"

[Panamaniac]

His "slave" name? You mean the one his mother and father gave him?

To quote one of the greatest comedies in american history, "Coming to America"- "His momma named him Clay, so I'm calling him Clay"

A wise man once said, (paraphrase) "It's better to remain silent and be judged a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."