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  • squealpiggy
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    #51
    THEN WHY DIDNT HE JUST GO TO THE FIGHT AS IF IT WAS A 140 FIGHT
    Because the extra mass would be likely to help him absorb damage from a bigger stronger puncher. Floyd Mayweather put on plenty of weight to fight at Jr Middleweight. It's the sensible thing to do. If Hatton had more time to prepare for a fight at a higher weight then he may not have struggled.

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      #52
      Originally posted by tito yuca
      On the contrary, the more punches your opponent throws, the more countering opportunities you have, because whenever he throws a punch, an opening is created.
      Is that so? Then how is it that pressure fighters and volume punchers have the advantage against pure boxers?

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        #53
        Originally posted by squealpiggy
        Is that so? Then how is it that pressure fighters and volume punchers have the advantage against pure boxers?
        amen to that. some ppl just dont get it.

        Styles make fights:

        Ali-Foreman-Frazier...

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          #54
          If you throw two or three punches you leave a gap for a counter. If you keep throwing punches you can't counterpunch without creating your own openings. A pressure fighter is a tough guy who can take a few to land a few and has the energy to keep throwing. This doesn't work against massive punchers because they can get dropped when they take a few to land a few, but it does work against boxers who don't hit as hard. Boxers are advantaged against big punhcers however as big punchers tend to be stingy with the volume of punches, thus leaving openings to be countered.

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          • tito yuca
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            #55
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            Because the extra mass would be likely to help him absorb damage from a bigger stronger puncher. Floyd Mayweather put on plenty of weight to fight at Jr Middleweight. It's the sensible thing to do. If Hatton had more time to prepare for a fight at a higher weight then he may not have struggled.
            Umm, no. He actually LOST weight. In the Baldomir he weighed 149 on fight night and on the Oscar fight he weighed 148.

            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            Is that so? Then how is it that pressure fighters and volume punchers have the advantage against pure boxers?
            If you put an average pressure fighter and an average pure boxer together then maybe. Floyd Mayweather is probably the most skilled boxer of all-time, undeniably the most skilled fighting today. The "swarmer vs. boxer" argument does not hold up here because of Floyd's high level of skill. In other words, Floyd is a better boxer than Hatton is a pressure fighter. His defensive skills are so amazing that he can avoid most punches that are thrown at him, and his punching accuracy is so good that as he evades punches he can fire off shots that hit his opponent cleanly, and he does all this better than anyone else out there.

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            • deliveryman
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              #56
              The problem in this match up for Hatton is that he doesn't jab, or at least not very well, and his footwork isn't all that good. And his defense is shaky at best.

              Floyd is far too accurate a counter puncher and has blazing speed, both handspeed and footspeed.

              Fact of the matter is, Hatton is going to be eating a lot of clean leather trying to bullrush Mayweather trying to get on the inside, where he might land a couple shots, but Floyd's ring generalship and footwork is far, far, far surperior to Hatton's, and Hatton simply won't be there long enough to win rounds for all the leather he's going to eat getting on the inside.

              Especially when he doesn't have a jab that can even hold a candle to Oscar's (top 3 jabs in boxing, behind Wright and Wlad).

              Floyd by wide UD, or possible late TKO on cuts.

              Hatton is just going to be taking too many clean hard shots.
              Last edited by deliveryman; 07-22-2007, 06:15 PM.

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                #57
                your forgetting hatton doesnt really have a good chin..those shots ricky takes will take more effect then it will mayweather when hatton goes to the body..PBF TKO HATTON round 9

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by deliveryman
                  The problem in this match up for Hatton is that he doesn't jab, or at least not very well, and his footwork isn't all that good. And his defense is shaky at best.

                  Floyd is far too accurate a counter puncher and has blazing speed, both handspeed and footspeed.

                  Fact of the matter is, Hatton is going to be eating a lot of clean leather trying to bullrush Mayweather trying to get on the inside, where he might land a couple shots, but Floyd's ring generalship and footwork is far, far, far surperior to Hatton's, and Hatton simply won't be there long enough to win rounds for all the leather he's going to eat getting on the inside.

                  Especially when he doesn't have a jab that can even hold a candle to Oscar's (top 3 jabs in boxing, behind Wright and Wlad).

                  Floyd by wide UD, or possible late TKO on cuts.

                  Hatton is just going to be taking too many clean hard shots.

                  1) I agree on the jab, that would make a huge difference
                  2) I disagree on the footwork, Hatton's footwork is excellent for the purpose it serves, Getting on his opponent's ass, fast and also with angles.
                  3) I pretty much agree on defense, he is clearly not PBF, but Hatton has ways to adjusts, not saying he is going to turn into Hopkins after 40 bouts, but I dont think his defense is going to be a tragedy in this fight.

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                  • squealpiggy
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                    #59
                    If you put an average pressure fighter and an average pure boxer together then maybe. Floyd Mayweather is probably the most skilled boxer of all-time, undeniably the most skilled fighting today. The "swarmer vs. boxer" argument does not hold up here because of Floyd's high level of skill.
                    The same could be said about Robinson and LaMotta.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by squealpiggy
                      The same could be said about Robinson and LaMotta.
                      Dude, today I really like your style

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