Could This Be The End Of Floyd?

[.Mik.]

I understand that. I just think that it is a leap to suggest that he will be fighting his next fight for Frank Warren.

But again, you are completely ignorant to the possibility of that being the case. You see Ricky appearing briefly on a Frank Warren production and assume that his next fight will be in England, fighting against a Warren hand-picked opponent at 140 who isnt PBF and utterly refuse to accept that it is speculation on your behalf that could easily be 100% incorrect.

[Technical_Skill]

I understand that. I just think that it is a leap to suggest that he will be fighting his next fight for Frank Warren.

But again, you are completely ignorant to the possibility of that being the case. You see Ricky appearing briefly on a Frank Warren production and assume that his next fight will be in England, fighting against a Warren hand-picked opponent at 140 who isnt PBF and utterly refuse to accept that it is speculation on your behalf that could easily be 100% incorrect.

Hobson whose word you seem to value very much says Hatton next fight will likely (if he had his choice i think) be in england (although his word means little to me)

I dont think Warren will risk his biggest investment in vegas against mayweather, i have said this at length before, if hatton was to lose, warren would lose money, as hatton's stock would drop (and it would, perhaps not alot, but it would imo)

Lets wait and see, nothing concrete right now, i hope the fight happens, my honest assesment at the moment is that Hatton will stay at 140 and do a fight in england, i think ray hatton has already said somewhere he doesnt want mayweather to be hatton's 1st fight back at 147 anyways,

I would like to see hatton go to new york and fight paulie if the mayweather fight doesnt happen, paulie says he will fight him in the US.

And to answer your question, no, i dont think floyd would give up a stone to fight de la hoya with DLH's ring size, glove choice and date choice, and a small share of the money, yet would be afraid to fight ricky hatton. Honest opinion.

[.Mik.]

Hm...putting words into my mouth (I dont give much credit to Hobson, I just follow what is and isnt said and dont make assumptions until I hear otherwise) and answering questions I havent asked.

This is very strange behaviour.

[Technical_Skill]

Hm...putting words into my mouth (I dont give much credit to Hobson, I just follow what is and isnt said and dont make assumptions until I hear otherwise) and answering questions I havent asked.

This is very strange behaviour.

Really? you make assumptions regulary,

Remember when you assumed Jermaine Taylor was p4p number one after he beat hopkins?

Even above you assumed it was speculation Hatton would rejoin Warren, when the facts say otherwise.

If you dont give much credit to Hobson, dont place too much value on that so called 'offer' you were talking about above.

Nothing personal, you may want to sort out that strange behavior though.

[.Mik.]

Well, now thats you assuming isnt it?

I read an incorrect source in regards to Jermaine Taylor, made no assumption there.

I assumed, quite correctly, that it was nothing more than speculation that Hatton would join back with Warren for his next fight, which is something you entirely believe which is completely because of your own assumption that its the case.

I believe that Hobson made PBF an offer to fight PBF because it was publically made and PBF publically refused it. I make no assumption whatsoever about what that offer is, but I am quite correct in assuming that there has been no formal offer made back from PBF.

Again, forcing opinions upon me that I do have and answering questions that I havent asked. That is strange behaviour.

[Technical_Skill]

Well, now thats you assuming isnt it?

I read an incorrect source in regards to Jermaine Taylor, made no assumption there.

I assumed, quite correctly, that it was nothing more than speculation that Hatton would join back with Warren for his next fight, which is something you entirely believe which is completely because of your own assumption that its the case.

I believe that Hobson made PBF an offer to fight PBF because it was publically made and PBF publically refused it. I make no assumption whatsoever about what that offer is, but I am quite correct in assuming that there has been no formal offer made back from PBF.

Oh not at all, and before i carry on with the rest of the stuff,

Where is your proof PBF refused Hobson's offer? your not assuming (you never do that) you obviously know. So link please, i never saw that bit, i would like to read that link.

Hatton is a free agent, it is under the agreement of the out of court settlement that the two parties will work together to discuss hatton's futre fights,

I doubt Warren would allow Hatton to sign for mayweather under another promoter therefore missing out on the action, it makes no sense in allowing hatton to be promoted by someone else, if hatton loses in a shock defeat warren then gets a hatton whose stock has fallen. It doesnt make buisness sense.

Oncemore Frank Warren had a watertight contract which the Hatton's broke, thus why they were going to lose that case (according to reports) and the reason they settled out of court, thus meaning i would expect the orginal agreement to be renewed in principle, the ball is in warren's court, Hatton never had a right to leave warren in the 1st place.

If you combine this with the quote from this earlier link

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/boxing/story/0,,2113306,00.html

You will its wrong to dismiss hatton joining up with warren next fight as speculation.

Its a real possiblity, infact i believe its the likely option, alhough i dont mind being wrong on this, i hope he fights mayweather or paulie next.

[Cletus Funk]

The court case was for libel, not breach of contract.

[Technical_Skill]

The court case was for libel, not breach of contract.

This was back in 2005

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4458156.stm

Ricky Hatton insists he is fully focused on his first world title defence against WBA light welterweight king Carlos Maussa on Saturday.

And the IBF light welterweight champion, who recently split with promoter Frank Warren, says he will be in the shape of his life in Sheffield.

"Obviously there were one or two upsets outside the ring, which I could have done without," Hatton told BBC Sport.

"But I've had 11 weeks training and I've never performed so well."

Warren claims he still has Hatton tied to a three-fight contract and threatened an injunction to stop Saturday's fight taking place.

He dropped the action last month, although he still plans to sue for breach of contract

This was the beef Hatton left warren when he was still under contract.

[Cletus Funk]

That's 2 years old and nothing came of it because Warren didn't have a water-tight contract.

Read the links that you've posted in this thread. Apparently it's to do with comments that Ray made on a radio program.

This was back in 2005

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4458156.stm

Ricky Hatton insists he is fully focused on his first world title defence against WBA light welterweight king Carlos Maussa on Saturday.

And the IBF light welterweight champion, who recently split with promoter Frank Warren, says he will be in the shape of his life in Sheffield.

"Obviously there were one or two upsets outside the ring, which I could have done without," Hatton told BBC Sport.

"But I've had 11 weeks training and I've never performed so well."

Warren claims he still has Hatton tied to a three-fight contract and threatened an injunction to stop Saturday's fight taking place.

He dropped the action last month, although he still plans to sue for breach of contract

This was the beef Hatton left warren when he was still under contract.

[Technical_Skill]

That's 2 years old and nothing came of it because Warren didn't have a water-tight contract.

Read the links that you've posted in this thread. Aparently it's to do with comments that Ray made on a radio program.

Uh huh, but from i heard, the contract was water tight, hatton claimed warren then breached his own contract with hatton by making him fight when he was injured/unable to make weight etc.


Ray Hatton said on october 17 2005 to BBC sport

We took one fight against Carlos Vilches (in June 2004) as a favour to Frank," said Hatton snr.

"Frank nagged me to take the fight even though he knew we would have to kill Ricky to get down to the weight in time.

"Ricky's trainer Billy Graham was so upset he refused to go down to the press conference in London and I had to sit there and watch him struggle."


Thus Warren Libeled the hatton for making unfounded statements, which they used to breach their contract, a contract apparently they had no right to break.

Well thats how i saw it anways.