Floyd avoiding the talent at 147 ??

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  • bdevils
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    #21
    Originally posted by niceguy45
    why doesn't floyd say I want to fight cotto or williams, williams called him out...IMO floyd should stay retire there are way more action fight without him and we def saw 3 of wm last night @ welter
    Stop with this ****ing nonsense. Floyd/Hatton has been talked about for years now. Everytime a fighter brings up Floyd's name all of the sudden Floyd' ducking him. You guys are so predictable it's pathetic.

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      #22
      Originally posted by robjr
      Floyd has stated he has gone back to 147. There is some big names in there at the moment: Cintron, Williams, Mosley, Cotto, etc.. But he is looking to fight Ricky hatton? The smaller guy that is obviously not that good at 147? I hate to state the obvious here, but Floyd seems to be picking the easier fights always. Stand up flat footed guys who try to brawl that can be outboxed. Like Gatti,Baldomir,dlh (way past prime).. Now theres hatton, not to discredit him.. But he comes forward with weak defense and is an open target, floyd sees that as an easy UD or possible late stoppage, he is the bigger man after all.. So Im curious why he wouldnt want to fight all these big names in the welterweight division.. it would definetly get rid of any questions I have about who the best is. What is everyone's take on this?
      some people will always have something too say about floyd, i'm not a floyd fan, but everyone wanted him too fight hatton, now he wants too fight hatton you find another thing too critisize. What's wrong with you, why do you hate him, did he **** your sister, your wife.... ?

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      • robjr
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        #23
        Originally posted by McNulty
        1000% correct...RJj made that style...hes the creator...BUT...

        Floyd walked, rather, stalked down DLH as well [didnt see Hanshaw fight yet..soon].

        I figured w/your love for RJj archetypes you'de ahving nothing but love for PBF. He does the same counters w/a twist of his own.

        Sure...RJj has more pop...but he is genetically bigger. If PBF had the size and height of RJj he'd be a carbon copy.

        no.. they got some similarites, but Roys style is completley his own.. Go watch some Roys old fights, he is on a different level..

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          #24
          Originally posted by small_warrior
          some people will always have something too say about floyd, i'm not a floyd fan, but everyone wanted him too fight hatton, now he wants too fight hatton you find another thing too critisize. What's wrong with you, why do you hate him, did he **** your sister, your wife.... ?
          kinda sad people always think its hate.. I just want to see him fight the BEST. I have no hate for floyd he is a great fighter. and I want to see him fight the other GREAT fighters.. end of story. sure give the people what they want. fight hatton, win. get paid. and hopefully fight the top dawgs in the welterweight division afterwards..
          Last edited by robjr; 07-15-2007, 04:56 PM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by robjr
            kinda sad people always think its hate.. I just want to see him fight the BEST. I have no hate for floyd he is a great fighter. and I want to see him fight the other GREAT fighters.. end of story.
            Ok, my fault, but give floyd a rest

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            • McNulty
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              #26
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              That didn't really make much sense, but ok.
              Guess your not a good poster then or Margys most feared moniker was fasle? I dont understand you.

              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              Margarito was factually avoided by his fair share of fighers at 147, even though he held a title, and offered good money through Top Rank to get matched with other fighters that could have elevated his name. He could have avoided Williams like many seemed to want to do, and just go straight to Cotto.

              Some of you guys take it way too personally when someone calls themself the best. And that's all anyone in boxing does nowadays...'I'm the best'. Saying you are the 'most feared man in boxing' is just another way of saying that.

              But Margarito definitely did have a reason to be angry all those years at being avoided. And that his why he got his rep...mainly from fighting mean and being avoided due to being a high-risk/low-reward fighter.

              Williams didn't have much of a name so he needed to fight Margarito...the reward was greater for Williams to fight Tony than for other fighters int he past.
              Margy had the belt...see what belts do? Who avoided Margy? Please provide names and facts or your own personal "facts."

              PBF is the BEST...is he feared? Are people dodging him? No...they all want a piece. Understand? Klit is the BEST in the HW's but theres a line for him going out the door.

              There was always big risk in a good strong fighter. Why fight a guy w/a bunch of loss' that nobody knows unless you have to. There was little gains in fighting Margarito.

              Chris Byrd was in the same category...big risk low reward...he got avoided like nobody else. Was he "feared"? No...never feared.
              What happened? He made champ and reigned for a good time. You dont hear him crying...you see him laughing to the bank...werd!

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                #27
                Margy had the belt...see what belts do? Who avoided Margy? Please provide names and facts or your own personal "facts."
                Floyd, 8 mil.

                Mayorga, avoided him also.

                I gotta go right now but these are facts not 'personal opinion'. You can choose to believe what you want.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by robjr
                  no.. they got some similarites, but Roys style is completley his own.. Go watch some Roys old fights, he is on a different level..
                  I never said RJj's style was nothing other than his own? Show me where I said that? I have every single RJj fight but one of his early ones. Alot of Am's and sparring footage as well. I SAID PBF is a copy...carbon copy in fact.

                  He was on a different level for most of the levels. Athletically...they are the same IMo.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by robjr
                    Floyd has stated he has gone back to 147. There is some big names in there at the moment: Cintron, Williams, Mosley, Cotto, etc.. But he is looking to fight Ricky hatton? The smaller guy that is obviously not that good at 147? I hate to state the obvious here, but Floyd seems to be picking the easier fights always. Stand up flat footed guys who try to brawl that can be outboxed. Like Gatti,Baldomir,dlh (way past prime).. Now theres hatton, not to discredit him.. But he comes forward with weak defense and is an open target, floyd sees that as an easy UD or possible late stoppage, he is the bigger man after all.. So Im curious why he wouldnt want to fight all these big names in the welterweight division.. it would definetly get rid of any questions I have about who the best is. What is everyone's take on this?

                    hatton is unfinished business from 140 moron, this fight should happen, 2 undefeated guys.

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                    • McNulty
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                      Floyd, 8 mil.

                      Mayorga, avoided him also.

                      I gotta go right now but these are facts not 'personal opinion'. You can choose to believe what you want.
                      Thats your "personal" opinion b.

                      PBF fought a better fighter who beat better opposition for the same price...8 mill. Baldi won on facts...not on hype. He beat names, hence fans interest. Blame the fans. That fight was bigger in every way for PBF. Baldi I think would beat Margy as well.

                      Mayorga? Your kidding right? This is your arguement?

                      Credibility is waning...

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