Wlad p4p?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The Klitchkos are both way overrated. Look at the fighters they have beaten and lost to. The HW division is a joke and they are benefiting from lack of talent in that weight class.

They will never go down as pund4pound great fighters, not now let alone in the history of the sport. They are good athletes who are long and tall and can punch but no way are they in the P4P rankings.

I know fans of these guys don't like to see the truth but it is what it is.

[kayjay]

It can't seriously be maintained that Wlad is NOT among the top ten boxers today. Offensively only Pacquiao and Calzaghe are in his league, overall he has to be in the top seven or eight.

[MoneyINC]

Ill just say this i think Wlad has the best jab P4P in the sport did you see the double, triple and quadrouple shots he was landing just fropm the jab!

[kayjay]

Ill just say this i think Wlad has the best jab P4P in the sport did you see the double, triple and quadrouple shots he was landing just fropm the jab!

Whoever has the second best is not even close. Forget size, that was the best jabbing you'll ever see, five in two seconds all from different positions, and that over and over.

[MoneyINC]

The Klitchkos are both way overrated. Look at the fighters they have beaten and lost to. The HW division is a joke and they are benefiting from lack of talent in that weight class.

They will never go down as pund4pound great fighters, not now let alone in the history of the sport. They are good athletes who are long and tall and can punch but no way are they in the P4P rankings.

I know fans of these guys don't like to see the truth but it is what it is.

Wow, lets just look at this from a boxers point of view, both Klits are tall and long and very athletic, is this a bad thing? Not at all they both know how to use there advantages to there advantage and they've done that... Wlad is the best in the HW division because he has lost before but learned from those loses and because of it is winning fights very easily now and if he can keep KOing guys in 5-6-7 rds he'll defintly go up on my P4P list which he sits at # 10 on currently, His jab is the best in the sport in my eyes and well his last 3 performances have been world class ass whoopins!

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Wow, lets just look at this from a boxers point of view, both Klits are tall and long and very athletic, is this a bad thing? Not at all they both know how to use there advantages to there advantage and they've done that... Wlad is the best in the HW division because he has lost before but learned from those loses and because of it is winning fights very easily now and if he can keep KOing guys in 5-6-7 rds he'll defintly go up on my P4P list which he sits at # 10 on currently, His jab is the best in the sport in my eyes and well his last 3 performances have been world class ass whoopins!

But Money, I'm gonna say this again......who has he beaten? You are only as good as your level of opposition and it hasn't been very good for either Klitchko. I know it's not their fault, I'm just not ready to crown them P4P or up there with the all time greats as some in this forum would like to.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Wow, lets just look at this from a boxers point of view, both Klits are tall and long and very athletic, is this a bad thing? Not at all they both know how to use there advantages to there advantage and they've done that... Wlad is the best in the HW division because he has lost before but learned from those loses and because of it is winning fights very easily now and if he can keep KOing guys in 5-6-7 rds he'll defintly go up on my P4P list which he sits at # 10 on currently, His jab is the best in the sport in my eyes and well his last 3 performances have been world class ass whoopins!

But Money, I'm gonna say this again......who has he beaten? You are only as good as your level of opposition and it hasn't been very good for either Klitchko. I know it's not their fault, I'm just not ready to crown them P4P or up there with the all time greats as some in this forum would like to.

[Slotff]

heavyweight division is just horrible... look at the champs...

Chagaev is a decent champ, he even beat Savon in the amateurs.

[robjr]

um savon??? i think that proves my point even more..

[Easton Assassin]

P4P was invented to give fighters below HW more media exposure. So it's really not a list for HW's.

However, if you adhere strictly to the "idea" of P4P, then Wladimir is solidly on the list. I mean, it's hard to find any fighter who uses his left hand as deflty as Wlad. And with the power he gets into a very straight, quick right hand, is scary. Even without considering he's a 240 lb fighter! Offensively, he's certainly P4P in that sense.

I tend to agree. He does have a very strong arsinal offensivly speaking, but he also tends to be weak defensivly and has had stamina issues.

P4p now=no
P4P one day=Maybe