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  • !! $iN
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    #41
    Originally posted by eazy_mas
    Winky vs Taylor

    Taylor could have rise his gaurd abit too win more rounds and use his jab more

    Winky ****ed up when he started to dance in the last round ****ed him up.

    basicly both have lost to themself so but Winky dance was a greater lose to Winky because he could have won the fight if he worked harder the last round and didnt change his style all of a sudden
    Winky did enough to win the 12th and should have won the fight...

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    • ReadyUp
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      #42
      How could you not give Jhonny Gonzalez credit for the brillant performance he was putting on against Israel Vasquez..........for 6 rounds or so.

      I remember when Lamps asked Emmanuel Steward if Jhonny should go in for the kill now on Vasquez and Manny said yes. I screamed NO!!!

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      • eazy_mas
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        #43
        Originally posted by !! SiN
        Winky did enough to win the 12th and should have won the fight...
        he won the by one point in the 11th round and in 12th he played around. it was a close fight but he ****ed up himself and i think it fair that it ened a draw.

        i remeber even Lennix Lewis was commenting at the beging of the fight about Taylor saying he should put his gaurd in the beging of th fight

        Originally posted by -GBGQ-
        How could you not give Jhonny Gonzalez credit for the brillant performance he was putting on against Israel Vasquez..........for 6 rounds or so.

        I remember when Lamps asked Emmanuel Steward if Jhonny should go in for the kill now on Vasquez and Manny said yes. I screamed NO!!!
        Jhonny Gonzalez was doing good with the left jab and hooks which similar to Corrales and Argulleo style. but look where he is now in terms of publicity.

        that is why most fighters are concerning to stay undeaft rather than takign a chance. boxing is there source of living and not only a sport. So from this term takign safe fight is alway good.

        but if you see old school boxing in the 70s 80s those guy where given a fast chacne to bounce back

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        • tredh
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          #44
          Originally posted by eazy_mas
          Winky vs Taylor

          Taylor could have rise his gaurd abit too win more rounds and use his jab more

          Winky ****ed up when he started to dance in the last round ****ed him up.

          basicly both have lost to themself so but Winky dance was a greater lose to Winky because he could have won the fight if he worked harder the last round and didnt change his style all of a sudden
          Those judges ****ed that fight up Winky shouldn't have needed the last round to win that fight. In my opinion he was up at least 2 rounds so didn't even need the 12th for the win.
          For Taylor to keep getting these decisions somebody on his team is well connected because he lost to Hopkins(2x) Winky and Spinks.

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          • eazy_mas
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            #45
            Originally posted by tredh
            Those judges ****ed that fight up Winky shouldn't have needed the last round to win that fight. In my opinion he was up at least 2 rounds so didn't even need the 12th for the win.
            For Taylor to keep getting these decisions somebody on his team is well connected because he lost to Hopkins(2x) Winky and Spinks.
            the beging round was Winky but then Winky started to move back is here he lost couple of round and some round could have gone either way which is many round but at the 11th round and Winky was winning on my scorecard by 1 point. when he dance he got a draw which is something convincing for me.


            another good example of lost fighters are Joel Julio, Carlos Quntiant, Saurez, Estrda, Jeff Lacy.

            Cintron had one bad night and people still judge based on that night only

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            • tredh
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              #46
              Originally posted by eazy_mas
              the beging round was Winky but then Winky started to move back is here he lost couple of round and some round could have gone either way which is many round but at the 11th round and Winky was winning on my scorecard by 1 point. when he dance he got a draw which is something convincing for me.


              another good example of lost fighters are Joel Julio, Carlos Quntiant, Saurez, Estrda, Jeff Lacy.

              Cintron had one bad night and people still judge based on that night only
              This fight being called a draw is damn near as bad as PBF winning a split decision over De la Hoya. In both fights I feel there were clear winners and Winky was the clear winner.

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                #47
                Originally posted by tredh
                This fight being called a draw is damn near as bad as PBF winning a split decision over De la Hoya. In both fights I feel there were clear winners and Winky was the clear winner.
                but you could see cleary in couple of round Taylor forced Winky backward

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by eazy_mas
                  but you could see cleary in couple of round Taylor forced Winky backward
                  taylor aint made no fighter go backward in his life. winky backed him up all night and he got robbed in broad daylight.

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                  • deuce_drop
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                    #49
                    it all depends one the circumstances, i know that there are some fighters out there that have won fights and they lose stock in my eyes because of gift decisions, etc.

                    so it goes both ways...................

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                      Maybe Taylor lost credibility for you, but to me when a green fighter like Taylor has two W's and a D next to his name against Hopkins and Wright on boxrec, I am pretty impressed. Maybe you'd be impressed if Taylor was 16, I don't know. Takes different stuff for everybody I guess.
                      Always been a fan of your passion my friend...always!

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