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  • gigogreco
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
    Can't agree with you more. I think hes looking for a fight with Winky in the near future and i think Mundine will UD or Ko him. Also i feel Mundine has the ability to beat Kessler this time around. With Calzaghe i think Mundine is a definite. I am more worried about Kessler, but after watching Andrade go 12 with him, i think Mundine could UD Kessler.

    He needs to start taking the big fights.
    mundine has done absolutely nothing that should make you believe he could beat either joe or mikkel.. nothing what so ever..

    what some people fail to understand is, that mundine didnt just put on the gloves and all of a sudden became a gifted fighter.. mundine senior is one of the biggest names in australien boxing history, its safe to say, that mundine senior trained his son from an early age..

    and which big fights, in 2 years mundine has done nothing that impresses anybody, when we are talking worldwide.

    nationally he has done something to impress the aussies and theryby the aussies think he is the greatest. beating soliman a natural mw and a shot and slow greene doesnt mean ****.. maybe nationally but not worldwide

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    • BROOKLYN CESAR
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      #22
      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
      Can't agree with you more. I think hes looking for a fight with Winky in the near future and i think Mundine will UD or Ko him. Also i feel Mundine has the ability to beat Kessler this time around. With Calzaghe i think Mundine is a definite. I am more worried about Kessler, but after watching Andrade go 12 with him, i think Mundine could UD Kessler.

      He needs to start taking the big fights.
      Yeah bro i think he needs to start fighting the best fighters out there also!!! If he fights winky he will have totally different fight to the one he had with sam but i still think he has the skill to win!!! Not an easy win in anyway but he can pull it off!!!

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        #23
        Originally posted by gigogreco
        mundine has done absolutely nothing that should make you believe he could beat either joe or mikkel.. nothing what so ever..

        what some people fail to understand is, that mundine didnt just put on the gloves and all of a sudden became a gifted fighter.. mundine senior is one of the biggest names in australien boxing history, its safe to say, that mundine senior trained his son from an early age..

        and which big fights, in 2 years mundine has done nothing that impresses anybody, when we are talking worldwide.

        nationally he has done something to impress the aussies and theryby the aussies think he is the greatest. beating soliman a natural mw and a shot and slow greene doesnt mean ****.. maybe nationally but not worldwide
        Mate do you know anything about boxing? If his performances against Green and Soliman did not impress you than you don't understand boxing. Winky struggled to win a UD against Soliman and Mundine smashed him. Green is a well reknown super middleweight and Mundine completely outboxed him. Also Mundine's performance against Kessler in 2005 was impressive, and he has improved since then a lot. The two fights and knowing Mundine has improved since he last fought Kessler, tells me Mundine can beat Kessler. It must be on his night though.

        I think he would do Calzaghe a lot easier than Kessler as well. To fast and to much power for Calzaghe. Mundine would have smashed Lacy anyway. The Americans built him up to be the next big thing because he was the only decent American in the division and you obviously bought it, also Joe has not been the greatest of champions.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
          Yeah bro i think he needs to start fighting the best fighters out there also!!! If he fights winky he will have totally different fight to the one he had with sam but i still think he has the skill to win!!! Not an easy win in anyway but he can pull it off!!!
          Yes i agree. I think he could beat Winky for a UD. But its so frustrating, im sure for you to and the rest of the boxing world. That hes not taking these big fights, and not doing his ability and talent justice. Im sure a really big fight will be his next fight. I think it may be winky or even Calzaghe if his fight with Kessler falls through.

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          • BROOKLYN CESAR
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            #25
            Originally posted by gigogreco
            mundine has done absolutely nothing that should make you believe he could beat either joe or mikkel.. nothing what so ever..

            what some people fail to understand is, that mundine didnt just put on the gloves and all of a sudden became a gifted fighter.. mundine senior is one of the biggest names in australien boxing history, its safe to say, that mundine senior trained his son from an early age..

            and which big fights, in 2 years mundine has done nothing that impresses anybody, when we are talking worldwide.

            nationally he has done something to impress the aussies and theryby the aussies think he is the greatest. beating soliman a natural mw and a shot and slow greene doesnt mean ****.. maybe nationally but not worldwide
            I respect what your saying but i still think what he has done so far in his very short career is impressive to me!!!

            Mundines father tony may have taught him from a young age but there is a big difference between teaching someone how box and them actually being world class boxers who win world titles!!!

            Mundine stopped Sam Soliman who most people think beat winky!!! Taylor didnt want anything to do with Sam!!! Mundine pushed Kessler in their fight and is a much more confident fighter now and after beating Danny green and Sammy i think he has the skill to take on some of the best in his division and win!!!

            Now i know you dont agree and he does not impress you yet!!! But let me ask you one thing bro!!! what does impress you???

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
              Dude, Calzaghe isn't as great as you think. I have watched his last 10 fights and he has been nothing special. He fights bums most of the time. Other than Lacy, he hasn't fought anyone that great.

              Kessler is the best out there at the moment. On his night, i will say again, on his night Mundine could beat both Kessler or Calzaghe. Its a mental thing with him, he has the skills to do it, if he fights like he did against Green he will have to much for Calzaghe.

              Mundine is faster than Calzaghe and will fight from the outside which Joe will struggle with.
              Your a ****ing fool. How can you say he'll bet calzaghe and kessler weh nhe got schooled by kessler and calzaghe would do even worse. I think htis mundine would be beaten by joe and mikkel also lacy would ko him and wait until kelly pavlik comes up, your man mundine would get hammered by kelly and be ko'd early.
              Why is it u aussie ass suck your fighters when there not even good?

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                #27
                Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                Mate do you know anything about boxing? If his performances against Green and Soliman did not impress you than you don't understand boxing. Winky struggled to win a UD against Soliman and Mundine smashed him. Green is a well reknown super middleweight and Mundine completely outboxed him. Also Mundine's performance against Kessler in 2005 was impressive, and he has improved since then a lot. The two fights and knowing Mundine has improved since he last fought Kessler, tells me Mundine can beat Kessler. It must be on his night though.

                I think he would do Calzaghe a lot easier than Kessler as well. To fast and to much power for Calzaghe. Mundine would have smashed Lacy anyway. The Americans built him up to be the next big thing because he was the only decent American in the division and you obviously bought it, also Joe has not been the greatest of champions.
                You talk about other people not knowing anything about boxing neither do you. I cant believe you think that *** mundine would beat calzaghe.
                joe is the fastest man a smw also even though he punches funny he hits very hard. Also did you fail to notice that joe has been champion for longer than i can remember, and that he doesnt know how to loose unlike your *** mundine.

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                • BROOKLYN CESAR
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                  Yes i agree. I think he could beat Winky for a UD. But its so frustrating, im sure for you to and the rest of the boxing world. That hes not taking these big fights, and not doing his ability and talent justice. Im sure a really big fight will be his next fight. I think it may be winky or even Calzaghe if his fight with Kessler falls through.
                  Yeah bro if he does fight any of them three youve mentioned he will give each of them a hell of a hard time!!!

                  Calzaghe v Kessler will show how good mundine is also!!! How because when kessler knocks calzaghe out people will say **** mundine did alot better then him lol!!!

                  Kessler wont have to engage anthony like he did in their fight if a 2nd fight happens mundine wont be scared to mix it up with him and will trade blows at will!!!

                  Winky will be the harder fight of the three cause he has awesome defence but mundines speed and power will soon break that down!!!

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                  • Chipper
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                    #29
                    Wait since when did Americans care about Mundine?

                    Cause I don't.

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                    • gigogreco
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
                      Mate do you know anything about boxing? If his performances against Green and Soliman did not impress you than you don't understand boxing. Winky struggled to win a UD against Soliman and Mundine smashed him. Green is a well reknown super middleweight and Mundine completely outboxed him. Also Mundine's performance against Kessler in 2005 was impressive, and he has improved since then a lot. The two fights and knowing Mundine has improved since he last fought Kessler, tells me Mundine can beat Kessler. It must be on his night though.

                      I think he would do Calzaghe a lot easier than Kessler as well. To fast and to much power for Calzaghe. Mundine would have smashed Lacy anyway. The Americans built him up to be the next big thing because he was the only decent American in the division and you obviously bought it, also Joe has not been the greatest of champions.
                      let me break it down for you, so you understand boxing..

                      beyer beat green ages ago, beyer is by manu considered as a good champ, but not great, green is an average smw, nothing special which is proven by the fact, that he couldnt beat beyer, even when green was in his prime, that says a lot..

                      again you ask if i understand boxing, and then throws nothing but a braindead argument into the matter.. winky didnt have problems with soliman, and what the **** is up with you aussies, claiming it is a defining moment in solimans career to get beaten by winky..??

                      its not like winky is a ko artist..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      the next part, is the one we´ve heard numerous times, mundine has improved this and that, again bull****, mundine looked good, because he faced MEDIOCRE opposition.. you are talking as if mundine is the only fighter improving, as a kessler fan i can easely tell you, that kessler wasnt in his prime when beating mundine, and is just about to enter his prime, so its not as if kessler, joe, bute and so on doesnt improve..

                      what you are failing to comprehend my friend is, that green had his prime ages ago, and on the world scene isnt a player.. soliman is a natural mw, put him in with kessler, joe, lacy, bute, froch and so on, and he would get beaten silly as well.. you are exaggerating those wins based upon its aussie vs aussie..

                      i dont bash mundine, by stating my opinion, im objectively evaluating the wins, and his wins is simply not of the value you claim..

                      a win over green for kessler, cal, bute, lacy would be far from spectacular.. and a win against soliman is rated the same..

                      i would categorize them in the region from average to good wins
                      Last edited by gigogreco; 07-05-2007, 06:52 AM.

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