Mayweather: "Hatton Won't Take The Fight"

[Cletus Funk]

The fight could go on PPV both sides of the Atlantic. HBO sells the rights to Sky or Setanta who then sell it to the public. It all makes up part of the same available TV revenue. So yes, Hatton's ability to sell the fight in the UK is a relevent issue when discussing purses.

That aside, he had HBO viewing figures of 1.3m for the Urango fight, 1.8m for Collazo and whatever for Castillo. That would indicate that there's plenty of people interested in watching him in the US, even more so after Saturday.

Do you really need it explained as to why HBO would put a fighter who's new to the US market on for free in his first couple of fights? Look up the term "loss leader".

Hatton Sells PPV's in the Uk, because he has a fan base here.

He doesnt have a big fan base in the US, otherwise he would be Pay Per View there.

HBO PPV covers a larger auidience than Sky, america is a bigger country with more people and more money to be made.

Otherwise why would hatton sign with HBO?

If hatton is a big draw in the states, why do HBO make him free to air and lose money for themselves??

Because they probably dont think his fights would do major PPV numbers in the US.

And quit with the patronising talk.

[Technical_Skill]

The fight could go on PPV both sides of the Atlantic. HBO sells the rights to Sky or Setanta who then sell it to the public. It all makes up part of the same available TV revenue. So yes, Hatton's ability to sell the fight in the UK is a relevent issue when discussing purses.

That aside, he had HBO viewing figures of 1.3m for the Urango fight, 1.8m for Collazo and whatever for Castillo. That would indicate that there's plenty of people interested in watching him in the US, even more so after Saturday.

Do you really need it explained as to why HBO would put a fighter who's new to the US market on for free in his first couple of fights? Look up the term "loss leader".

Those numbers prove people will watch him for FREE, it doesnt prove they would PAY to watch him fight.

Yes the fight will go PPV both sides of the atlantic, thing is, if hatton wasnt fighting a known name by the US public, the americans wouldnt buy the PPV, the brits would, and money would be lost.

Example.

If the hatton urango fight went PPV both sides of the atlantic, i reckon it would sell out in britain and flop in america.

Its that simple, he doesnt have a huge fan base in america,


Friggin JOHN DUDDY went US PPV (not hbo tho), why?

Cos he has a marketable irish fan base in the US, which they tried to get for hatton, by impying he had irish roots lol.

[Cletus Funk]

Those numbers prove people will watch him for FREE, it doesnt prove they would PAY to watch him fight.

It doesn't prove they wouldn't either. I'd like to see some of the viewing figures for other "free" HBO fights for comparison though.

HBO obviously believe Hatton will go PPV in the US which is why they've funded his first 3 fights on "free" tv. If you think 205k in the middle of the night is poor then you should check out Floyd's non-DLH sales. They're appalling by comparison given the size of the market he's supplying to.

It's yet to be seen if the DLH fight has had any effect on Floyd's ability to sell so you're overstating and assuming his relative strength in the US market but people booing him and leaving his fights early doesn't sound that popular to me.

[Technical_Skill]

It doesn't prove they wouldn't either. I'd like to see some of the viewing figures for other "free" HBO fights for comparison though.

HBO obviously believe Hatton will go PPV in the US which is why they've funded his first 3 fights on "free" tv. If you think 205k in the middle of the night is poor then you should check out Floyd's non-DLH sales. They're appalling by comparison given the size of the market he's supplying to.

It's yet to be seen if the DLH fight has had any effect on Floyd's ability to sell so you're overstating and assuming his relative strength in the US market but people booing him and leaving his fights early doesn't sound that popular to me.

Floyd's non DLH hoya sales are nowhere near appaling, so before i end the convo at this point, i shall try and find dios domincano's list of the biggest selling ppv's, mayweather is on that list several times i believe.

[Technical_Skill]

Floyd's non-DLH sales. They're appalling by comparison given the size of the market he's supplying to.

Nope, thanks to dios dominicano for this list.

Lemon,

Are you trying to mislead us, or do you just not know the facts?

Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.2 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL

Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL

Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL

Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K

Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K


Tyson-Botha: 700K

DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K

Delahoya- Quartey: 570K

Delahoya-Camacho: 560K

Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K

Trinidad- Wright: 520K

Trinidad - Vargas: 520K

Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K

Tyson-Golota: 450K

Lewis/Tua - 420K

Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K

Mosley-Vargas: 415K

Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K

DelaHoya - castillejo: 400K

Mayweather-Judah : 400k

Delahoya-Sturm: 380K

Taylor-Hopkins : 370K

Gatti-Mayweather: 360K

Trinidad-Joppy: 350K

Lewis - Grant: 350K

Hopkins- Tarver: 350K

Delahoya-Campas: 350K

Morales- Pacquiao 3: 360K

Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k

Morales-pacquiao: 340K

Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K

Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K

Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each

Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K

Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K

Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K

Ruiz-Golota: 175K

Barrera-Juarez: 165K

Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K

Klitschko- Williams: 120K

Barrera-Peden: 110K

Cotto-Malignaggi : 100K

Barrera-Fana: 75K

Rahman-Maskaev: 60K

Margarito-Gomez: 35K

[Cletus Funk]

Floyd's non DLH hoya sales are nowhere near appaling, so before i end the convo at this point, i shall try and find dios domincano's list of the biggest selling ppv's, mayweather is on that list several times i believe.

I'll save you the trouble.

Judah did approx 400k, the others mid to low 300s. To a market 5 times the size of the UK's. At peak viewing time. Appalling, as I said.

[Technical_Skill]

I'll save you the trouble.

Judah did approx 400k, the others mid to low 300s. To a market 5 times the size of the UK's. At peak viewing time. Appalling, as I said.

Nah sorry dude Floyd done better numbers than All three Morales vs Pacman fights,

He done better numbers than quite a few of Lennox Lewis's fights

He done better numbers than some de la hoya fights

He done better numbers than Barrera Juarez,

Done better numbers than Hopkins a few times,

Sorry dude, his numbers are nowhere near appalling.

Lemon,

Are you trying to mislead us, or do you just not know the facts?

Delahoya-Mayweather: 2.2 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 2: 1.99 MIL

Tyson-Lewis: 1.8 MIL

Tyson-Holyfield 1: 1.59 MIL

Tyson- McNeely: 1.55 MIL

Holyfield - Foreman: 1.4 MIL

DelaHoya-Trinidad: 1.4 MIL

Tyson-Bruno: 1.37 MIL

Tyson-Ruddock 2: 1.25 MIL

Holyfield-Lewis 1: 1.2 MIL

Holyfield-Douglas: 1.06 MIL

Tyson -Selden: 1.01 MIL

DelaHoya- Hopkins - 1.0 Mil

DelaHoya - Mosley 2 : 975K

Tyson- Ruddock 1: 959K

DelaHoya- Vargas - 940K

DelaHoya-Mayorga - 935K

Holyfield-Bowe 1: 929K

Delahoya-Whitaker: 720K


Tyson-Botha: 700K

DelaHoya - Mosley : 585K

Delahoya- Quartey: 570K

Delahoya-Camacho: 560K

Delahoya-Chavez 2: 525K

Trinidad- Wright: 520K

Trinidad - Vargas: 520K

Trinidad-Hopkins: 475K

Tyson-Golota: 450K

Lewis/Tua - 420K

Jones-Tarver 3 : 415K

Mosley-Vargas: 415K

Taylor-Hopkins 2: 410K

DelaHoya - castillejo: 400K

Mayweather-Judah : 400k

Delahoya-Sturm: 380K

Taylor-Hopkins : 370K

Gatti-Mayweather: 360K

Trinidad-Joppy: 350K

Lewis - Grant: 350K

Hopkins- Tarver: 350K

Delahoya-Campas: 350K

Morales- Pacquiao 3: 360K

Morales- pacquiao 2: 350k

Morales-pacquiao: 340K

Mayweather- Baldomir: 340K

Delahoya-Gonzales: 345K

Morales- Barrera 1,2,3: 300k-330K each

Delahoya- Ruelas: 330K

Delahoya- W. Rivera: 240K

Delahoya-G. Hernandez: 220K

Ruiz-Golota: 175K

Barrera-Juarez: 165K

Jones, Jr- Harding: 125K

Klitschko- Williams: 120K

Barrera-Peden: 110K

Cotto-Malignaggi : 100K

Barrera-Fana: 75K

Rahman-Maskaev: 60K

Margarito-Gomez: 35K

[Cletus Funk]

Those number's just show that they'd be better off concentrating the PPV revenue on the UK and showing it at prime UK viewing time, even if the fight is staged in the US. It would easily sell 600k+ in the UK.

I tell a lie. They also show that 400%+ more people wanted to watch Tyson's shell fight McNeeley than want to watch Floyd against anyone not called DLH.

Nah sorry dude Floyd done better numbers than All three Morales vs Pacman fights,

He done better numbers than quite a few of Lennox Lewis's fights

He done better numbers than some de la hoya fights

He done better numbers than Barrera Juarez,

Done better numbers than Hopkins a few times,

Sorry dude, his numbers are nowhere near appalling.

[Technical_Skill]

Those number's just show that they'd be better off concentrating the PPV revenue on the UK and showing it at prime UK viewing time, even if the fight is staged in the US. It would easily sell 600k+ in the UK.

I tell a lie. They also show that 400%+ more people wanted to watch Tyson's shell fight McNeeley than want to watch Floyd against anyone not called DLH.

They also show that Floyd can do bigger numbers than Manny Pacquiao, Erik Morales, Bernard Hopkins (non de la hoya), de la hoya himself, Lennox Lewis etc.

Once again, Floyd's numbers are not appaling, no way.

And why the hell would they wanna concentrate on selling PPV in the UK instead of the US? makes no sense, america is bigger, there are more people to sell the PPV to, otherwise why is hatton on HBO?

Sorry, name me the Last UK PPV that did Numbers of 2 Million???

[Technical_Skill]

And by the way mayweather PPV cost more than Hatton,

No wonder hatton does well on santanta

Santanta were selling the Hatton-Castillo fight for 15 bucks lol.

Mayweather fights are $54.99 are they not?

lol.