Hatton is no John Ruiz...

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  • suzukilou
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    #21
    Originally posted by satori555
    yes this illegal style is getting out of control when are penalties gonna come down is what i'd like to know
    mills lane would not allow that to happen. to bad he retired

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    • satori555
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      #22
      im not gonna allow it to happen im educating all the ignorant people(mostly british) that its illegal, 5 seconds into the fight he starts doing it and he never stops never

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      • jswa17
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        #23
        Originally posted by porlie
        Castillo clinched just as often as Hatton in the fight.
        be real

        hatton tied castillo up every time they got close. or right after he got a couple of punches off.

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        • satori555
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          #24
          its not like hatton holds by accident thats his style he does it every fight, obviously some holding is gonna happen but when you base your whole style off clinching its illegal, cortez should have took a point away from hatton in the first round, second round, third round, 4th round, when will refs apply the already set rules to boxing

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          • bigtime9
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            #25
            its not like hatton holds by accident thats his style he does it every fight, obviously some holding is gonna happen but when you base your whole style off clinching its illegal, cortez should have took a point away from hatton in the first round, second round, third round, 4th round, when will refs apply the already set rules to boxing
            because the networks run boxing, and they want a floyd vs hatton fight so castillo gets sacrificed

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            • GunStar
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              #26
              Originally posted by porlie
              Castillo clinched just as often as Hatton in the fight.
              Is Castillo known for clinching or brawling??

              Hatton hugs just as much as Ruiz if not more.

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              • adamk1304
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                #27
                Originally posted by PRboxingfan
                ...Ruiz actually fought between hugs.

                I was amazed at the amount of clinches Hatton got away with against Castillo. I don't want to take away from his performance (I think Castillo could've continued but chose not to) but his style is not really that crowd-pleasing any more. As Max Kellerman said, he's the hooking-hugger.

                His style is taylor-made for someone like Malignaggi or PBF. A good boxer with a good jab will give Hatton his first L.
                at the time of stopage hatton had landed around 90 punches, so he must've been doing somethin apart from holding.

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                • .Mik.
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                  #28
                  I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is.

                  Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well.

                  In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms.

                  You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches.

                  Use a bit of brain guys.

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                  • !!! Beowulf !!!
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Miksterious
                    I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is.

                    Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well.

                    In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms.

                    You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches.

                    Use a bit of brain guys.
                    Some people just hate Hatton because he is white and European. It's impossible to look past that simple fact now.

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                    • PRboxingfan
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by nelsoncm
                      Hatton is quick. Hatton has real skills. Hatton is strong. Hatton is an exciting fighter. Hatton is one of my favorite fighters...almost.

                      Now only if Hatton doesn't clinch that much. It's getting more irritating and he's getting better with clinching with each fight.
                      Hatton is not as quick as you make him out to be. He's quicker than Castillo and Urango, who've never been known for their speed, but he was slower than Collazo, who's speed is just slightly above average. He used to be an exciting fighter but he's been huggin' for dear life since the Collazo fight. Maybe the beating he took against Collazo affected him psychologically?


                      Originally posted by Miksterious
                      I'm not entirely sure that some of you guys even know what clinching/holding/hugging really is.

                      Hatton is a swarmer, he fights close because he is confident that he can generate more and cleaner power from short punches than his opponent can. He can work better within a smaller space. He is a very very good inside fighter...Castillo is/was as well.

                      In that fight, Hatton did not clinch (ie hold on) to Castillo anymore than Castillo did to him. Furthermore he didnt hug or hold nor even tie Castillo's arms up very much either. If you watch the fight, its much more often that its Castillo's arms that are curling around Hatton's and Hatton who then gets the next punch in by dropping and untying his arms.

                      You cannot produce as much of a work-rate and punch-rate as Hatton does/did if you are holding on and clinching all the time...as evidenced by the fact that Castillo threw and landed nowhere near as many punches.

                      Use a bit of brain guys.
                      Did you even see the Compubox numbers? Hatton was credited with landing 81 of 220 punches (37 percent), according to CompuBox statistics. Castillo landed just 58 of 192 (30 percent). Castillo was able to throw some punches but as soon as Ricky would connect a punch or two (and get hit himself), he'd leap in with a hook and hold with his right hand. Please watch the fight again and you will see that Ricky does exactly that.

                      He's the hookin' hugger or the leapin' hugger, whichever you prefer.

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