Whos better Leonard or Duran

[StarshipTrooper]

Leonard fought Duran's fight because Roberto did a first class head job on Ray and pissed him off to the point where Leonard was fighting with anger instead of a clear head. Duran knew what he was doing the whole time: It was calculated. This isn't an excuse for how Leonard fought or a swipe at Duran. Whether people like it or not the psychological battle is a part of boxing and kudos to Duran for winning that particular battle. It's a part of the game and it's a mistake to leave it out of your calculations.

Poet

[EMPOROAR]

Leonard fought Duran's fight because Roberto did a first class head job on Ray and pissed him off to the point where Leonard was fighting with anger instead of a clear head. Duran knew what he was doing the whole time: It was calculated. This isn't an excuse for how Leonard fought or a swipe at Duran. Whether people like it or not the psychological battle is a part of boxing and kudos to Duran for winning that particular battle. It's a part of the game and it's a mistake to leave it out of your calculations.

Poet

What he said also. Remember the press conference. Duran hated guys like Leonard. He hated everything he stood for. He would have a heyday if he were to ever fight Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather wouldn't have the balls to stand and trade anyways, however.

[StarshipTrooper]

What he said also. Remember the press conference. Duran hated guys like Leonard. He hated everything he stood for. He would have a heyday if he were to ever fight Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather wouldn't have the balls to stand and trade anyways, however.

Funny thing is, even THAT was calculated by Duran. He worked himself up into his "El Cholo" role. Away from boxing he was one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet; as Ray Leonard found out when they filmed a commercial together. Duran treated Leonard like they'd been best friends for years.

Poet

[The Noose]

Your first argument bugs me. Did Ray Leonard voluntarily fight the wrong fight? No. That's ******. Duran rang his bell early in round two. So it only makes sense that Ray had no choice but to fight Duran's fight because he had trouble keeping up with the older man and only when Roberto slowed down (he was getting up there in age and the extra weight was slowing him down) was leonard able to get back into the fight and win some close rounds.

For the rematch, Duran wasn't in fighting shape and is confirmed by Randy Gordon so I give Ray as much credit for winning that fight as Lennox lewis for beating Oliver McCall due to a nervous breakdown in the ring. For any of the leonard fans who are dissatisfied with the results of the rematch because of Duran's walking away, i say to them the rematch didn't have to wait nine years.

Theres a difference between voluntarily fighting the wrong fight, and choosing to fight instead of box, which i believe Leonard did.

As for comparing Leonard-Duran 2 and Lewis-McCall 2, i strongly disagree.

But u have made me want to watch all these fights again, so thank u for that.

[Panamaniac]

wrong, I love when you guys try and justify your crap. please list durans accomplishments as compared to leonards. and before you answer go back and read pages 10-13 of this thread.

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[StarshipTrooper]

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Love your avatar Panamaniac!

Poet

[K-Nan]

Leonard- in every aspect of the sport.

Sorry, Roberto. You were good- but not that good.

[Panamaniac]

Mutual Admiration Society:

Love your avatar Panamaniac!

Poet

Thanks. I chose it to showcase the Cholo's snarling-beast demeanor... Your avatar's pretty cool too; the Brown Bomber's one of my all-time faves.

[SkillspayBills]

Haha, but I like the ones you have drawn for me better. Duran just generally does seem like he has the better resume, and most people agree that their first fight was the most important one. Leonard said the second fight wasn't that big of a deal, and pretty much no one says that their third fight meant anything.

The third one is virtually non existent, when do you ever see shows like hbo and such talk about the third one, it is pretty funny to me actually.

[Panamaniac]

Side Note:

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