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  • Cletus Funk
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    #51
    Originally posted by $iN
    Naz was a superstar, no doubt...

    Bringing up Hatton-Urango is a joke, right? How do you compare something that was shown on HBO to a PPV?

    There's a reason every fighter calls out Mayweather. It's not because they think they can beat him. It's because he's the biggest draw not named Oscar...
    People call out Mayweather because he's ranked by the majority as the #1 p4p fighter in the world.

    Hatton v Urango was thrown in there to show that 2m isn't actually that impressive, especially given the ridiculous amount of marketing it received. Hatton may have been "free" viewing but it received very little hype and he's hardly known over there so those numbers are pretty good, and 4 times the number that usually watch Floyd, ppv or not.

    Nobody knows who Floyd is outside of the US, and most of the US population would struggle to pick him out of a line-up.

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      #52
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
      Hatton's fame doesnt even compare with mayweather's, thats the reason why mayweather vs de la hoya did the highest PPV sales of all time if i am correct?

      And yes de la hoya was a huge factor in that, but so was floyd, otherwise mayorga dlh would have done similar numbers.
      You're right, but not in the way you intended. Hatton's better known at home and abroad than Floyd is. Per capita, he sells 250% more ppvs than Floyd does on average.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Cletus Funk
        Take a look down SRL's resume and come back to me. He more than made up for not fighting Pryor.

        And no, Pryor wasn't given the same opportunity as Floyd. I don't ever recall him ever being funded and marketed to death like Floyd has been.
        **** that resume **** you talking because if the shoe was on the other foot you would be in here like you do talking about how PBF ducked so and so. Back then nobody was funded or marketed like SRL so what are you really saying? Stop being so biased towards PBF. No PBF career is not perfect in some of things he has done but no fighters is.

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          #54
          Originally posted by tredh
          **** that resume **** you talking because if the shoe was on the other foot you would be in here like you do talking about how PBF ducked so and so. Back then nobody was funded or marketed like SRL so what are you really saying? Stop being so biased towards PBF. No PBF career is not perfect in some of things he has done but no fighters is.
          You're saying nothing. Stop wasting my time.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Cletus Funk
            You're right, but not in the way you intended. Hatton's better known at home and abroad than Floyd is. Per capita, he sells 250% more ppvs than Floyd does on average.
            but thats misleading because it comes down to size of country and those sort of factors no?

            Because no matter what the stats say, mayweather is better known in america than hatton, and mayweather De La Hoya was the biggest selling ppv of all time if i am not mistaken.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              but thats misleading because it comes down to size of country and those sort of factors no?

              Because no matter what the stats say, mayweather is better known in america than hatton, and mayweather De La Hoya was the biggest selling ppv of all time if i am not mistaken.
              Actually that's the only rational way for it to be compared, as a market %.

              Sure, it was the biggest selling ppv of all time. It was also the most heavily marketed of all time, by some way. You also need to consider that ppvs are relatively new so they have little historic perspective.

              Again, it's mainly down to Oscar. DLH v any top class opponent would have done those numbers with that marketing budget.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Cletus Funk
                You're saying nothing. Stop wasting my time.
                You can't refute facts thats why you have nothing to say.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Cletus Funk
                  Actually that's the only rational way for it to be compared, as a market %.

                  Sure, it was the biggest selling ppv of all time. It was also the most heavily marketed of all time, by some way. You also need to consider that ppvs are relatively new so they have little historic perspective.

                  Again, it's mainly down to Oscar. DLH v any top class opponent would have done those numbers with that marketing budget.
                  1) So Hatton is more popular in his own country than Mayweather is, we know that, but there is no denying Mayweather is the bigger draw in the US, how many people went see hatton fight urango, wasnt it about 3,000?

                  2) Floyd did his fair share too, i dont believe for one minute de la hoya vs mayorga could have done anywhere near those numbers with the same level or marketing.

                  I think people wanted to see oscar,

                  But they wanted to see him fight the best in the buiness, Mayweather.

                  Sorry, we both know those PPV sales were not 100% all de la hoya and people wanting to see the best fighter in the world or a ****y kid get hs mouth shut.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by tredh
                    You can't refute facts thats why you have nothing to say.
                    Sorry, I must have missed the facts that you speak of.

                    What were they, again? That SRL had big funding? Yes he did, and he used it to become a global superstar known in pretty much every developed country around the world.

                    Was that the point you were trying to make?
                    Last edited by Cletus Funk; 06-15-2007, 11:26 AM.

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                      #60
                      You know the point that I was making was not that Floyd's a total unknown. It was about what I think he needs to do to step up to the next level.

                      Only the delusional would say he's anywhere near the likes of DLH, Tyson, Naz, Lewis, Holyfield or even RJJ and Bowe in their primes in terms of global recognition.

                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      1) So Hatton is more popular in his own country than Mayweather is, we know that, but there is no denying Mayweather is the bigger draw in the US, how many people went see hatton fight urango, wasnt it about 3,000?

                      2) Floyd did his fair share too, i dont believe for one minute de la hoya vs mayorga could have done anywhere near those numbers with the same level or marketing.

                      I think people wanted to see oscar,

                      But they wanted to see him fight the best in the buiness, Mayweather.

                      Sorry, we both know those PPV sales were not 100% all de la hoya and not people wanting to see the best fighter in the world or a ****y kid get hs mouth shut.
                      Last edited by Cletus Funk; 06-15-2007, 11:30 AM.

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